Turing Mini ITX Case
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As noted in Chat, I've received my case order. There are a couple of components needed to complete the build (internal power cable and 120mm x 15mm case fan). Once they arrive, I'll post the process here along with building something like a quick start guide for the Turing Pi documentation site.
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Any extra case fans required and which one would be suitable? Mine should be shipped within next days too
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There is one place to mount a fan, under the top cover (screws in from above). It's 120mm x 120mm. I have a 15mm, low-profile fan on order. A 25mm one might fit.
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Just received mine, cant quite figure out how to fit the hdflex psu, might need a little customisation https://hdplex.com/hdplex-fanless-250w-gan-aio-atx-psu.html
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It will require a customized solution. Sorry, I discovered this immediately after unpacking my case.
I received the previously mentioned Noctua slim fan today. It's going back to Amazon. I've ordered a couple of other Noctua fans: one with the standard color scheme; the other a Chromax, which is black. The proper fan for the case is 120mm x 120 mm x 25mm. Use the long screws and nuts that are included with the case to mount the fan. The diameter of typical, self-tapping fan screws is too large and will mess up the black paint/anodizing.
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I've just received my case - are there any other PSUs apart from the HDPLEX mentioned above?
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I don't know much about PSUs either. These here look okay to me: https://www.scan.co.uk/products/250w-seasonic-ssp-250sub-flex-sub-psu-80plus-bronze-fully-modular-dual-rail-12a-plus12v-1u and https://www.scan.co.uk/products/300w-seasonic-ssp-300sub-flex-sub-psu-80plus-bronze-fully-modular-dual-rail-18a-plus12v-1u Can someone more proficient say whether the specs are otherwise ok or maybe even has experience with them?
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I have just revieved my case and wondering if anyone had experiance of fitting a atx flex PSU and what cables might be required based on the above suggested PSUs?
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For the moment, the only PSUs that are guaranteed to be installable are Pico PSUs. The case should accommodate Flex ITX PSUs. Unfortunately, the C13 male plug on these PSUs may be oriented with the dual prongs on top rather than the bottom. That's the way the Apevia PSU I have was built. The case's C13 plug, wired with the crimp connectors, needs to be replaced and both cable.orientations will need to be included, along with instruction on how to replace the cable. I've already alerted people internally. I don't expect anything to happen under the Chinese New Year holidays are over.
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Lol, PSU doesn't fit and the USB header has pulled the plastic mount off the pins, great QA
Which way around does the USB thing go?
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Yeah. That was a "feature" of the Turing Pi v2.3/v2.4. That shell is glued in place on the v2.5.2 board. The USB shell key notch should face out or away from the board.
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Thanks, I managed to prize the plastic off and re-orientate it, I might superglue it on when I get a minute
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I was so excited to install my Silverstone FX350-G and finally be done with the build, but alas the fan is so unbearably loud it has to go back. Will watch this thread for info on replacement options, thinking maybe Pico instead. Can confirm @Dan D. that a regular 25mm x 120mm fan fits just fine.
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As I've posted earlier, the Apevia ITX-PFC400X PSU fits and the fan is quiet. My experiences with the cable bundle on non-modular PSUs made me concerned that it could be difficult to bend the cable bundle in such a constrained space. Going modular elimates that concern. The case bracket isn't a perfect fit around the fan on the Apevia PSU, but it seems okay. The big challenge at the moment is the internal AC cable extender's C13 orientation. It doesn't work with any Flex PSU where the C14 plug is oriented with the two prongs up or facing into the case. I'm working on a temporary solution (replace the entire cable assembly), but I need to wait until the parts I ordered yesterday through AliExpress arrive. Everything in China is shut down for the New Year holiday.
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I have temporary used double sided tape to keep the HDPLEX psu in place, not a long term solution, but it’s holding while i try figure out what to do long term.
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I won't have time for at least two weeks, but a 3D printed prototype could potentially be used by a metal fab shop to create the appropriate bracket. Fastening the bracket would involve using the 3 screw locations on the case.
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Yeah, more than enough holes and screws provided to get something to work, I’ve never done anything like that before.. so would know where to start at this point. Think one might even be able to 3d print something..
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Maybe Turing team could provide a list of recommended PSUs or something...
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I've seen photos of the same Flex PSU model from at least two manufacturers that have different C14 plug orientations. My internal recommendation is to ship the case with both left and right female C13 90° angle to C14 male bulkhead AC cable extenders. The case documentation will include a photo of the bulkhead C14 cable connections. Though my concern is that some user will ignore the documentation, connect the leads improperly, then either start a fire or experience an electric shock. Regardless, as soon as my AliExpress order arrives after the Chinese New Year holiday, I'll post links for where to purchase the full cable assembly.
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This happened to me also ! I’m going to attempt to glue the plastic back in place.
Im no expert either, the Scan listing doesn’t show the connectors but a google and found this link from another supplier which does show the SATA power connectors. https://www.overtek.co.uk/products/seasonic-ssp-300sub-300w-flex-atx-modular-1u-power-supply. So I’m ordering one of these from Scan. https://www.scan.co.uk/products/300w-seasonic-ssp-300sub-flex-sub-psu-80plus-bronze-fully-modular-dual-rail-18a-plus12v-1u The Power Connector looks to be oriented the right way round but we will see when it arrives !
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I've got the same (I think,
ITX-PFC400W
not
ITX-PFC400X
) Apevia PSU. Are the parts you ordered on Aliexpress for the internal C13 cable? If so, do you have a link?
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excellent, thanks!
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It arrived today and you are right the loom is a squeeze but it does fit. No awards for internal wiring but I’m up and running. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1332392650438869033/1335646132910686218/IMG_2495.jpg?ex=67a0ece5&is=679f9b65&hm=50555570425702ada377b6d856b224012e851461987f56adc961c52d9fcfe258&
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You should see mine, and will when the documentation gets pushed out. I need to "dress" the cables somehow. Something for edits.
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Where exactly would the fan go in the example above? 😬
The fan attaches to the bottom side of the top cover. The cover has 4, dimpled locations for the long, flat head Philips M3 screws that are included. Insert the screws through the top, so that they'll be recessed, flip the cover over and attach the fan to the inside of the cover with airflow going out of the case.
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Is there 2.5 add on adapter to allow another drive to be added alongside the space for the 3
I’d like to fit 4 drives.
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Which screws do I use for the NVMe SSD M.2.? I guess I need to buy some or are they included?
Nvm I have found them haha 😅
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Thanks @Dan D. What is this called so I can search for it! ? Or do you have a link?
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The M.2 and mPCIe screws are M2 x 3mm.
It has been a while since I acquired them, but I'll check. .... Here is a link: DIY Solid State Hard Disk SSD https://a.co/d/3dy5OAy @rca123 Update: I remounted the SSDs I my case with the 4-bay brackets this morning. The flat head Philips screws, included with the bracket, ARE long enough. The screws are M3 x3mm or 4mm. You will probably need to purchase two (2), small, 1mm-2mm fiber washers to fill the small gaps to mount the 4th mass storage device. Photos to follow.
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That's good to know. I of course installed it as in-take rather than outtake. D'oh
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Ok, my case is almost done, had to put the case fan on 5v to prevent it sounding like an aircraft taking off, want to find some form of pwm control to make it adjustable!
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If you have a v2.5.2 board with a PWM fan, have you adjusted the fan speed with either the BMC-UI or the
tpi cooling
CLI?
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Have the latest board, but the case fan header is still only 2 pin or am I missing something. The headers for the individual modules are pwm.
I see now there is a setting for system fan speed in the ui. Let me switch to 12v and see if that makes a difference 👍
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The v2.5.2 board has a 4-pin, PWM fan header. There are 6 fan presets: 0 = off; 6 = max. I typically use "4".
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Thanks, this works perfectly... didn't realize there was a setting in the BMC to control the fan speed.. I guess I just assumed the boards were the same, this and previous generation...
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I fitted my board in the new case today. A heads up that this power supply https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07BVTT69K?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_1&th=1 has the wrong orientation for the power socket for the TPI case supplied elbow connection.
I'm not happy with the level of noise from the power supply fan either - but it is kept lower by cranking the case fan speed up - so a bit of a tradeoff. I may look at the passive hdflex supply.
The case is neat and looks really pretty. Images:https://photos.app.goo.gl/FGYhQNkVzsqiSUT76
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Finally got some time to make up an adapter for the HDPLEX, currently printed in PLA, not sure what sort of heat the PSU pumps out, but will reprint in PETG when it arrives, files are provided 'as is,' without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6947522
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Awesome. This is just the solution I was looking for - so PSU ordered and printfile sent to my 3D printing capable family member 😄 Thanks a lot!
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I've switched to the HDPlex and it is a big improvement. It runs silent and cool to the touch, plus you get a lot more room in the case. Images here https://photos.app.goo.gl/PVYM8zsvcohvYWMy6. It's worth mentioning that although the website does not show this, it comes with modular cables including the wonderful short 24pin motherboard supply cable. I searched the internet for such a cable while waiting for the HDPlex to arrive and did not find one - but it was there when I opened the box.
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Thank you! I have ordered a print of this 🙂
Looks great! Mine is still a absolute mess until I can get the mounting bracket from @Xatinni in hand!
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Morning 👋 Any thoughts or experiences on Raspberry Pi CM4 passive heat sinks vs fans in the TPi2 case? I’m leaning towards fans but don’t want to just heat up the next Pi over… 😬 Heatsinks: https://thepihut.com/products/aluminum-heatsink-for-raspberry-pi-compute-module-4-cm4# Fans: https://thepihut.com/products/cooling-fan-bracket-for-raspberry-pi-compute-module-4-cm4
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@Xatinni And now I had the thing printed, got the PSU, mounted everything. And it works like a charm. Amazing!
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Glad to hear, I was going reprint in PETG, but the PLA seems to have held up ok, I do have a case fan.
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Allright. Mine is printed in PETG. Seems slightly more bendable that PLA but seems to be holding up too
@Xatinni I was a bit too fast there. It broke off very easily here so the design should probably be improved to accommodate that https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1332392650438869033/1346031851407409242/IMG_3114.jpg?ex=67c6b559&is=67c563d9&hm=3969f8bae45c51dc81f6aa29b4f2facf61860d2babd3d2c617942df437c88227&
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Oh no, thats no good, might have to think about adding some horizontal ridges for extract strength, will have a look at it later this week… the Tinkercad link is posted on the thingiverse page for anyone want to modify or remix.
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Yes, I'll take a look at it and try to see if I can modify it. Another time please reply to my msg or tag me manually so I get a notification 🙂
@Xatinni Link to tinkercad doesn't seem to work and I can't find it myself. I wanted to edit the design. Can you send it to me, please?
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Made public, currently pending reveiw https://www.tinkercad.com/things/g5KjhtXuBj9-flex-bracket
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I get a "Sorry, that page is missing" error still
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How many shells did you do? I ended up with 40 bottom shell layers to try and make it solid
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I don't know. My brother printed it for me and I didn't ask 🙂
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Visible now. Will check it out later when I have time. Thanks!
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That’s awesome! Thanks!
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Look like the updated one is saved as a draft, so not publicly available 😦
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Oh yeah I see that now. Got any plans to make it public soon? 🙂
@Xatinni Looks like it's the same as this, right? Or at least this one looks supported like you described above https://www.tinkercad.com/things/g5KjhtXuBj9-flex-bracket
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@User @Leander , yes the thinkercad URL is correct, but unfortunately looks like I broke my Thingiverse account, new STL file is here. https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6975626
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Thanks! That url works better
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We should pin this somewhere. I printed this and got the HDPLEX. This adapter works great as does the HDPLEX 250W
Printed the older not reinforced version but it seems to be just fine and didnt break. I will likely print this improved one just in case.
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