Turing Pi 2 mini ITX case open discussion

Question

We are going to start mini ITX case design soon and we d love to learn your opinion The goal is to collect and prioritise the case features What features are must have what are optional etc Also if you have any design feature ideas references please share them here

baileyjm02 · Answer

Would love an easy access back panel so I can excess the bottom of the board when it s fitted

meldon · Answer

Could you do a flat pack style case

wahooli · Answer

i d like to have support for 6 2 5 drives

tryhardeggplant · Answer

Not necessarily a case feature itself but a rack mount kit for one or two cases would be great for those of us who want to rack mount it

romeyde · Answer

Can it come with 3 or 4 Pis

kathy.auteberry · Answer

Not sure if that s already given but since the board has two SATA connectors would love a bay for at least 2x 3 5 drives

nanne · Answer

Minimal amount of space quick opening and closing specialized cooling solution

nulldns · Answer

I would like it to be rack mountable as an option

peter.duckett · Answer

Rack mount server case that could contain two Turing pi s with 4 hot swap drives

nanne · Answer

To be honest I would probably not buy one and just buy a normal mini ITX case as shipping and price would be too expensive

lamawithonel · Answer

I would love for them to link together to create a rack chasis

greensn0w22 · Answer

It would be nice that it could fit a full ATX psu inside

pomstazlesa · Answer

since a lot of people will want to use microsd cards especially with the CM4 adapter boards it would be nice if all 4 nodes microsd cards would be accessible from outside of the case with a microsd extension and opening on the case like you can see here https www audiophonics fr en network audio players raspdac audiophonics evo sabre pack diy balanced dac 2xes9038q2m streamer for raspberry pi 4 p 14639 html this would be a big QOL feature for tpi2 setup imo

nsky. · Answer

Do you mean access to compute module nodes or NVMe ports

nsky. · Answer

How are you going to connect so many drives

metroidwar · Answer

nvme ports i assume thats at least what i would want so you dont need to remove the whole board to change a nvme drive

nsky. · Answer

what do you mean

baileyjm02 · Answer

I imagine compute node modules would be accessible from the front of the case ie where you would place a glass panel if was an option I m more specifically talking about NVMe ports Eg I wouldn t want to have to unscrew the motherboard from the case to swap or update a storage drive

wahooli · Answer

having 2 additional minipcie sata cards so 2x2 sata ports included with the built in 2 ports makes 6

romeyde · Answer

Sorry trying to be funny Too early in the morning Just mean that a case for my turning that is coming soon but the inability to actually buy any PIs for it has been annoying

.thetinkerer · Answer

It would be great to have at least one 5 25 and or 3 5 external bay so everyone can just put in the drive bay insert s for the things they want I would love to see 1 x 5 25 external bay and 1 x 3 5 external bay

nsky. · Answer

RK1 will be included

peter.duckett · Answer

Something on the lines of this https www mini itx com ~T2241

mshafer1 · Answer

I got it especially since I still need to buy compute modules

yann7541 · Answer

I would appreciate rackmount option preferably 10 since that should work Math a mini ITX if I am not wrong

thafreak · Answer

Since I don t think you ll be able to please everyone I would also like to see an io shield so I can mount the cluster in a standard mini itx case I seem to have had the same idea as others and also acquired some mini pcie to 2x sata adapters and plan to try to support up to 6 3 5 drives

nothos · Answer

I d really like if it would be possible to have the case designed in a way that you can access stuff without having to move it out of place like the top can slide off

nothos · Answer

Make it easier to put new modules in and such wtihout a full case teardown

peter.duckett · Answer

4 SATA 3 5 hotswap bays two intake fans that could run off the Turing pi s rear annenta mounts two sets of usb 3 ports indervudual power buttons and room to mount power supplies

therealbitracer · Answer

access is nice but I think once I have mine setup I wont need to do a lot of tinkering I would really like to see a compact and portable setup

nsky. · Answer

You can get IO shield on our website

OldMan · Answer

If you could provide files for folks with 3d printer to print their own that would be fun Shoot a well designed set of stls i would pay a bit for

fishwaldo · Answer

LCD OLeD and buttons hooked up to the BMC to power on off etc individual nodes

jaeydee · Answer

Please make it transparent You implemented so many nice LEDs would be a shame to hide them

pomstazlesa · Answer

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jaeydee · Answer

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jaeydee · Answer

An option for it being transparent maybe

pomstazlesa · Answer

a plexi top

gabbagandalf0 · Answer

A tempered glass side option would be sick haha

pomstazlesa · Answer

with a request for easy access i guess simplest solution would be a removable top with 4 screws you can change metal for plexi and keep everything else

pomstazlesa · Answer

having 4 or 5 of these accessible from outside of the case bonus points for flushed would be AMAZING https www audiophonics fr en raspberry pi and other sbc accessories adt link extension male micro sd to female micro sd shielded 15cm p 15513 html

choupz · Answer

I love this design

dingahayes · Answer

stackable design for multiple boards would be dope

mlbturbu · Answer

It would be nice to have some space to fit some 18650 batteries to power it or to use as ups

pomstazlesa · Answer

looks like vendor even makes them with mounting holes please let there be an option for this in the case http www adt link product B33 Shop html

nothos · Answer

I know most people will be using a Pico PSU but having room for at least an SFX if not ATX size PSU would be great

nothos · Answer

I plan to have a lot of platter drives hooked up to my board

pomstazlesa · Answer

that sounds way bigger than any itx case wouldnt something like fractal node already fit that

nothos · Answer

Yeah I ve been looking at a fractal node 304

nothos · Answer

https www amazon co uk dp B009PIEMUC

duggeh · Answer

Something like the Dan A4 SFX except with drive mounting on the side where the Dan A4 has the GPU

flying_madman · Answer

Hopefully plenty of room underneath for cooling the M 2 or fitting riser adapters

binaryconstruct · Answer

Taking some of these ideas it would be nice to have some sort of attachment system to clip modules to the side For example case is just for the main system but you can attach a drive bay module to the side for 2 5 or 3 5 disks then attach a battery UPS module to that Maybe a standard 3D printable template Keep it so that you can still rack mount the whole thing when they are attached together Perhaps even attach two cases together for 2x Turing pi 2s in a side by side rack Rack ears would also need to be attached to the ends

brokenglytch · Answer

I m probably an edge case but there are some M 2 > standard PCIe adapters out there would be nice to see a place to mount a standard PCI e rail for peripherals I want to try to get working with the cluster

raingodz · Answer

A handle so I can take it to college easily

ryanwww · Answer

Agreed DeskPi Super6C case has an access door on the bottom for SD NVMe ports which is very handy

metroidwar · Answer

yea did not think about that at first tbh

deefoozy · Answer

I d say have a 5inch or 3 5inch bay so you can mount something like hotswap bays yourself More of a general solution to certain DIY things to mount for example https www amazon nl en dp B00V5JHOXQ

abyssalreclass · Answer

I d jump on something with an option for rack mounting ideally with a pair of drive bays that can take either 2 5 or 3 5 drives But the most important factor is some kind of duct specifically for the turing pi board that directs airflow from fans directly onto the compute modules and dust filters on the intakes

nerdyjohn · Answer

Would love to see some sort of additional options for rack mounting inside my network rack

__rxb__ · Answer

Plexiglass would be great It is special board so it may be visible

machinchose · Answer

personnally i d like the case to be as small as possible something in the vein of this https www amazon ca gp product B07GYM1D2J ref=ox sc saved title 1 psc=1

.hellow · Answer

Just having a case with a proper airflow would be much appreciated Something that can work with low rpm 60 80mm fans while cooling nicely the boards would be perfect

dojo.major · Answer

There are many good ideas here But even if some were not opposites can t have both see thru and not see thru there is no way to incorporate all of them So rather than give my list of preferences I d like to urge you to build something that is unique and uniquely suited to the TPi2 Rack mounted dual mini itx cases with HDD space exist Tiny portable mini itx cases exist Tiny portable mini itx cases with access to the bottom of the motherboard TPi2 optimized airflow multiple interfaces on the front of the case and the ability to add rack mount ears I haven t found one I guess I am saying that there is no way to build a single case that suits everyone But you can design a case that provides features optimized to the TPi2 and the combination of which cannot be found anywhere else

terarex · Answer

A Turing Pi 2 board with 4x M 2 NVMe SSDs will need sufficient airflow on both sides of the board Clearance on the bottom needs to accommodate M 2 SSDs with heat sinks

keylooper · Answer

Not adding anything new but want to echo the rack mount option Two together would be amazing but I ll take what I can get

jbrickley · Answer

Room for two 2 5 SATA SSDs proper cooling w fan s Access to the NVMe drives on the bottom of the system board with ventilation for NVMe and heatsinks Internal power supply unless you have an internal ATX 24pin adapter in mind Already spec d out PicoPSU External connections for the USB C Flash BMC OTG ports Maybe a fan control knob as the fan connector is not PWM I would second < dojo major> s suggestion for something unique and optimized for the TPi2

the_madowl · Answer

My only request is for a back panel so you can access all the connections and ports on the back of the board without having to remove the board from the case Everything else I m pretty flexible on

czunit · Answer

Make sure it can fit the orig Turing pi I need an atx case for that

daboone72 · Answer

I think of one of the key features is that it can be absolutely silent 4 Raspberry Pi s idle draws 15 watts it s nothing even under load it s not a lot I want a living room friendly quiet device It can live near my router then Hopefully this will lead to a desire for a monster 5k cluster then I d go to town with great big fans maybe liquid cooling I do want the 4 lights for each node though as in the prototype An optional front LCD connecting to the GPIO port would be a nice touch Pico PSU compatible And + for the 2x 2 5 inch SATA SSDs Aerial for wifi and Lora Zigbee type options

one.true.beepdog · Answer

A single 120mm fan at one end of the case would move plenty of air even to keep RK1 modules cool

one.true.beepdog · Answer

at least based on my experience with my RockPro64

one.true.beepdog · Answer

a dust filter would be kinda nice or a way to add one at least

one.true.beepdog · Answer

That s not a deal breaker it d be nice to have Where I plan on putting mine it won t need a dust filter

.mitrik · Answer

this has been said many times already but I can t stress enough how nice it would be to have 1 or 2 internal 2 5 sata bays or even better if there is any possibility for it a disk tray you can just hotswap something like this

.mitrik · Answer

also 2 fans at opposite sides of the case or at least spots to mount your own to get some airflow going

.mitrik · Answer

I am sure people will eventually install more than just cm4 s in there I dont know how hot 4 xavier or orin modules can get so maybe 2 is overkill

.mitrik · Answer

and I think someone already mentioned this but since the nvme s will be under the mb an underside you can unscrew so you can add remove ssd s without taking out the whole mb

.mitrik · Answer

don t take this the wrong way I mean no disrespect but do you really think many people will just have 4 measly cm4 s sitting in there

deltchar · Answer

But more complicated if going for rack mounted case

.mitrik · Answer

< deltchar> yeah that s true I have a rack but wasnt even considering the possibility a mini itx case could be rack mountable

deltchar · Answer

Well when you add space for power supply and 2 Hot swap 3 5 bays you could easily hit a 19 wide case with a shallow depth That would fit nicely in most network Wall cabinet racks

.mitrik · Answer

sorry I made a typo and too many people read it before I corrected it I meant 2 5 inch not 3 5 we already have nvme for high speed sata III SSD would still make sense but at least for me there is no point in adding slow HDD s

nlhelix77 · Answer

I would expect NVMe access it s on the underside of the board right

_dhanos_ · Answer

TP2 advertises as CM4 and Jetson module board so the case should reflect this People are going to be using Jetson modules me included

.mitrik · Answer

I am also wondering if there is any need for something bigger than a picoPSU

_dhanos_ · Answer

slow HDDs mine can do 400MM s have a benefit of capacity People are going to be using TP2 also as a NAS and imagine for example 2 or 4 12 TB drives

_dhanos_ · Answer

If you are going to use HDDs or PCIe cards then this might be necessary

.mitrik · Answer

oh yeah I can definitely see the use in that wasnt considering the use case of NAS

_dhanos_ · Answer

People actually are asking NAS related question here quite often

daboone72 · Answer

miltrik Well I am in UK electric here has gone through the roof so for a device on 24x7 then yes I have bought 2x Turing Pi 2 boards though the other I ll probaly load with RC1s but even though I hope todo passive cooling

daboone72 · Answer

miltrik And I have 4 Cm4s ready and waiting

.mitrik · Answer

and yes of course PCIe

.mitrik · Answer

you are absolutely right I should not have assumed everyone will want to go over the top with it

daboone72 · Answer

For you guys wanting to rack I believe there was a partnership in the offing for Myelectronics nl https www youtube com watch v=RijuRF0ITdE t=484s for a nice 2u

daboone72 · Answer

mtrik This video Jeff Geerling highlighted to me the two extremes of clustering one 20k one cheap and cheerful Turing pi https www youtube com watch v=IUPYpZBfsMU t=464s

ScottR · Answer

Most important to me is that the removable internal components SD card etc are accessible without removing the board from the case Above that I would like mounting for one or more disks A distant third would be a mounting point for a small fan I plan for this cluster to be on a shelf next to the TP1 I put the TP1 in an InWin Chopin case and it has served well except for card access and that the boards run a bit on the the hot side but cool enough to run at full speed

pomstazlesa · Answer

i dont understand all the airflow and ssd mounting requests those are just regular itx and larger cases already from fractal silverstone and others and rackmount options exist too focus on what TPI2 specifically needs which would be things like 1 easy access to microsd from outside of the case 2 easily removable top of the case while its running for node hotplug 3 easily removable bottom of the case while its running for nvme

pomstazlesa · Answer

i think some people here are missing the point of itx case just because its an itx motherboard it wont be an itx case with all those generic extra features like sfx psu and bunch of drives just get a an matx or atx case

one.true.beepdog · Answer

I d just like a simple box with easy access to the things and a bit of airflow

one.true.beepdog · Answer

a single fan on the end of the box would solve that

walkjivefly · Answer

Removable panels all around for easy access Board orientation optimised for airflow through between CM4 etc modules from a 120mm fan Space for upto 4 2 5 SSDs Space for a SFX PSU Front panel power switch Front panel USB3 sockets x2 Rear panel HDMI USB2 USB3 x2 GPIO ETH connectors already on the IO shield

_dhanos_ · Answer

I m going to rack mount my TP2 I ve been thinking of a case I d like to have but also considered what I ve seen on this server 2U TP2 mounted on the right side looking from the front Front part of the case along the length of TP2 should be a mesh 3x 80mm FANs mounted behind the mesh so they can blow in air directly on the modules at low RPM Back part also a mesh allowing warm air to escape Horizontally mounted full size PCIe cards an ability to mount a Mini PCIe to PCIe adapter a panel on the bottom part of the case allowing to access the PCIe drives an ability to mount an SFX PSU but maybe with a mesh plug for these who use Pico PSU hot swappable HDD cages but the number of them and their size 2 5 3 5 is to be determined plus some FAN or FANs behind teh drives to cool them down in addition internal drive mounts 4x front mounted SD card slots extensions some activity LEDs that could be software driven I also think I d enjoy a screen of some sort at the front USB ports on the front don t think a case like that is going to be cheap though

_dhanos_ · Answer

People are listing their needs and that they d want to have this in the official TP2 case Imagine no one mentioned SSD mounts assuming you mean SATA drives and the team would not include them then and make like a super compact case If you ask me this is good people are mentioning what they want The team then would have to find the best feature set

pomstazlesa · Answer

what a lot of people are asking for including you is out of scope of an ITX sized case this isnt supposed to be the TPI2 perfect case this is supposed to be an ITX case for TPI2

pomstazlesa · Answer

what you are asking for is rack mountable fractal torrent modified for TPI2

plsnotracking · Answer

Hello maybe this sounds wild and mostly it is I plan to keep this inside my room where I sleep and work can this be optionally water cooled I don t like fans because they are noisy Thank you

_dhanos_ · Answer

What s out of scope with a rack mount case I m not sure I understand

pomstazlesa · Answer

it exist

_dhanos_ · Answer

Well TP2 is going to have own case that s ITX You will be able to mount other boards in it too I m not sure I m following

pomstazlesa · Answer

also again thats not an ITX case anymore

_dhanos_ · Answer

Any implications

pomstazlesa · Answer

for example

_dhanos_ · Answer

Sorry I don t understand An ITX case is a case that has ITX mounting holes

pomstazlesa · Answer

thats where you are wrong

pomstazlesa · Answer

itx case is a case that has ONLY itx mounting holes

pomstazlesa · Answer

due to overall lower volume of the case compared to matx case

_dhanos_ · Answer

Did I state otherwise

_dhanos_ · Answer

I still don t know what s wrong with a description of the case I d like to have

pomstazlesa · Answer

that its not an itx case

pomstazlesa · Answer

like you know that big cases what many people are describing here dont have mounting holes for only one size motherboard

pomstazlesa · Answer

what you and many others are requesting is not an itx case anymore

_dhanos_ · Answer

I m not following you here sorry If a case has mounting holes let s say ONLY for ITX boards it is an ITX case Also we re speaking of a case specifically for TP2 and I wrote down a feature set that I d like to see in a TP2 case and I ve seen earlier from other people and it really does not matter if it s ITX or not The team might figure out they want to make it compatible with bigger boards too TP3 It does not matter What matters is a feature set for the official TP2 board case

pomstazlesa · Answer

you wouldnt call this an ITX case but it fits your definition of ITX case https www fractal design com products cases torrent torrent white rgb tg clear tint

pomstazlesa · Answer

that would be getting deceptive advertising this is the form factor people are expecting

lamawithonel · Answer

I think a linkable or modular design would work A single case small enough to sit on a desktop but link a few together and they could fit a standard 19 rack No one makes anything like this afaik

_dhanos_ · Answer

I understand some people want small factor case but generalizing is risky The team don t know thus why they re asking so you do not know either Also how would I rack mount SFF I don t think there s one case that fits all cases and if this does not have to be one case there probably should be 2 one for a rack and one desktop Torrent is not what I described I described rack mount case with a feature set I d use If I get it that s great If not I d mod it or mod another case to fit my needs Also let s not clog this thread with this It s meant to collect features people would like to see in the case I m open to talk a bit more if you want but not here

pomstazlesa · Answer

Also how would I rack mount SFF look at turris omnia with its optional rackmounting kit

pomstazlesa · Answer

going rackmount by default for everyone will be a bad choice

pomstazlesa · Answer

you can rackmount virtual anything with a kit but you cant do it other way around

_dhanos_ · Answer

I never said rack mount only These are not my words I just even said there should probably be 2 types of cases Then again I think it s better to keep this outside of this thread

pomstazlesa · Answer

and yes people expect small form factor evidence provided from tpi ks

pomstazlesa · Answer

every rackmount without specifying and addon kit always means rackmount only ie wide for rack and following rack sizes 1U 2U etc its not only about what you say but also what you dont say

ehmello · Answer

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lanbrown · Answer

Like other my requirements call for a case that mounts in a rack I also realize that many don t want this a mini itx board is small the rack width is very large in comparison The fact is you can fit two mini itx boards side by side in a 19 rack I doubt very much that the a rack mount case will be the way they go since it will make the entire system huge I personally just plan on going with something like the iStar USA D 218M2 ITX Some people stated they wanted the case to fit two of the Turing Pi 2 boards that case can support two mini itx boards Some stated they want washable filters that case has that as well Some stated they would like some 2 5 or 3 5 drive bays well that case supports four 3 5 so you can also just use a 2 5 to 3 5 adapter to use 2 5 drives It also supports two PSU s so each board has it s own PSU I also saw someone mentioning make sure the fans blows over the compute modules Since they stick up off the board this case has four 80mm fans I also plan on using something like the Geekworm 12mm Aluminum Alloy Heatsink C235 to keep the compute module cool and then those 4 x 80mm fans to extract heat out of the case The height of those heatsinks should be less than the spacing between the modules The Geekworm heatsinks do work I have five Raspberry Pi 4B s with their allow heatsink that sits on top and on the bottom of the board I bought longer screws and mounted them on a DIN rail bracket made for the Raspberry Pi In the heat of a Texas summer all five of these were in an attic and not once throttled No active cooling fans just those allow heatsinks and a silicon thermal pad on the bottom and top between the case and the board I could even run them at 100 CPU load and still never throttled due to thermal conditions

choupz · Answer

There could be also two cases The first for 1xTuringPi builds and a second for 2xTuringPi rack builds

unjeh · Answer

A 19 2u 2x board build would be nice indeed Also for a 10inch 1x board I would be interested in but it is probably to big of a niche

dreacon34 · Answer

I like the advertised design a lot and I liked the idea that someone mentioned for an easy access backside due to m 2 mounts A lot of people mention features that a ton of cases already have and launching a TP2 specific case that simply provides the same thing like a lot of cases already provide don t make sense if you want to rack mount so get a rack mount case and throw the TP2 inside I see the TP2 specific case more in a sector of minimal form factor and to ignore most of the industrial standards except the IO shield size Make the case for easy traveling and tinkering on the go for all the use cases where people set and forget there are too many cases available already i would even go that far and think about a USB C USB PD bases PSU concept so we can use 100w phone chargers and don t need to carry a big PSU with us Just further thoughts on this the possibilities on minimal approach are giant and give new situation of tinkering Tinkering on a Airplane while the 12h flight no problem turn on your notebook and plug in the TP2 to the power socket while not need more space than under the seat Car camping van tiny houses small flats apartments Running the TP2 on a USB PD Powerbank on the go etc

ehmello · Answer

I suggest allowing multiple cases to connect together to mount in a rack

ehmello · Answer

If a galactic emergency arises allow many causes to connect together to form Turing tron

ehmello · Answer

Having two cases side by side would be great though

the_boom_boom · Answer

a pico psu with a usb pd connector sounds like a great idea so why can t i find one on amazon or newegg dammit someone make one and take my money

pomstazlesa · Answer

that sounds like a terrible idea and expensive idea just stick to barrel its better than usb c anyway

_dhanos_ · Answer

This is interesting question Implementing USB PD this should not be problematic but maybe cable and charger compatibility and or max power Anyway maybe this would be interesting to you https www adafruit com product 5450

pomstazlesa · Answer

that wont work how you think it should unless you find a usb charger that outputs ONLY 12V this wont work part of the usb pd is negotiation thats not possible with cable like that just stick to mean well psu

_dhanos_ · Answer

Of course you need a charger power supply that can output 12V that s basically in the description `thats not possible with cable like that` Of course it s possible through the negotiation you mentioned just check your power source if 12V is on the list of available voltages And the fact that Adafruit hope you know what Adafruit is sells them means that they do work

pomstazlesa · Answer

sink chip is a neat idea but expensive for what this is and do you know how is it wired not mentioned anywhere not even the datasheet

saxman. · Answer

I see lots of people asking for rack mounting Realistically if you are rack mounting you don t want something THAT tall Using something that just holds pi4s with POE is more efficient from a rackmount perspective

_dhanos_ · Answer

Rack mounting is not all about RPis or CMs alone at least this is how I see it With what CM4s give you you can use PCIe cards SATA and NVMe devices etc With a PSU a few SATA drives a PCIe card or 2 and TP you can use up whole 19 of space easily From the other side you could put more than a single TP2 inside if such case existed TP2 gives you more possibilities than RPis

lanbrown · Answer

The cases already exist They support two mini itx boards four 3 5 drives and two power supplies in a case that can be mounted in a 19 rack They even have four 80mm fans for cooling

_dhanos_ · Answer

Same way small factor mini ITX cases exist too

lanbrown · Answer

From the other side you could put more than a single TP2 inside if such case existed They do exist and the list of what people are asking for in such a case is already available

_dhanos_ · Answer

But we are talking about TP2 cases here like an official TP2 case

saxman. · Answer

But how tall are the TPi2 vs what a mini itx mobo with low profile CPU cooler

_dhanos_ · Answer

I m not sure if I understand the question Do you mean not such thin small form factor case exists

saxman. · Answer

I m guessing it would need to be at least 2U high to accommodate the size of the carrier boards

saxman. · Answer

Just trying to temper expectations for everyone asking for rack mountability

saxman. · Answer

Rack mountable hardware is hard to do well

_dhanos_ · Answer

Yes that d have to be a 2U case

dreacon34 · Answer

It s the same problems task you have with modern notebooks They all are based on USB PD and some need 65W and some around 100W According to spec the TP2 is limited to 60W anyways So any USB PD product should cover that 60W at least Except some 30W Chargers

_dhanos_ · Answer

Yeah but also a brick you use to power Pico PSU could have not enough power

saxman. · Answer

Might as well go for a full sized PSU let s just avoid proprietary sizes if possible

_dhanos_ · Answer

In both cases you need to check is the power supply is enough

saxman. · Answer

If you are doing a case internal please

dreacon34 · Answer

Yeah but that counts for any product We are talking about technical devices and not a slide of toast People who are buying TP2 are capable of figuring out what they need to power it over PD

_dhanos_ · Answer

I mean SFX would do too it s a standard

saxman. · Answer

Noone wants a box to put things in only to have another box to power that box

_dhanos_ · Answer

This is what I mean

saxman. · Answer

Yeah I m all for SFX That s fine I my book lots of companies make that Otherwise you would need adapters and crap

dreacon34 · Answer

But what s the point If you guys want PCIe and all the stuff There are cases Use riser cable etc what the point of just another rack mount case I really don t get it

_dhanos_ · Answer

The list I wrote down for a rack mounted case contains a hle for internal ATX PSU but also a mesh cover if you want to use Pico PSU At least this is an idea I came up with

saxman. · Answer

You would need to run a 24pin cable through that hole

_dhanos_ · Answer

There are also small factor cases for Mini ITX boards We re talking about a case crafted specifically for TP2 This one will be an official case and people would buy it even for this alone Then it might contain TP2 specific features like Pico PSu mounting holes some status LEDs etc

_dhanos_ · Answer

Can you elaborate please I m confused by this question

saxman. · Answer

Raspberry Pi as a whole is a dumpster fire in regards to power options Reference the official POE hat s fans don t work if you aren t running Raspbian which is crazy

saxman. · Answer

Doesn t the TPI2 get its power via a standard 24pin atx power connector

_dhanos_ · Answer

It does

_dhanos_ · Answer

But I m not sure what do you mean by this cable and hole

dreacon34 · Answer

Only see the feature status led there Everything else is just so generic since every server case needs it and there are ton of custom rack mount server cases And also mini ITX cases The TP2 is crafted in a compact way For everything else there are also solutions already or getting made at the moment As example the Pi Blade Server Project

dreacon34 · Answer

Correct

_dhanos_ · Answer

Yeah I fully agree Also many people would just use standard rack cases This does not change I d buy an official TP2 rack case if such exist

dreacon34 · Answer

Sure but I am wondering if that s what the Turing Pi should focus on The need for a compact case is way bigger than to make it chunky as possible Specially since it was advertised like this through the picture small

_dhanos_ · Answer

I mean there are many small cases on the market for example Skyreach 4 MINI But yeah I understand And I don t say the rack one should have a priority maybe think about one later Or add mounting ears to whatever will be designed as a desktop one

_dhanos_ · Answer

Also a big point for a desktop case is you won t have to research for compatible cases Rack cases are standardized with U and we know we need at least 2U case Desktop ones are harder to check

_dhanos_ · Answer

This does not change I d like to see an official rack case

dreacon34 · Answer

< dhanos > I think rack mount is a rabbit hole Some will want to keep it 2U But by stacking the case and rotating by 90 degree you could even rack more than 2 cases Which would probably size up to 4U or worse

dreacon34 · Answer

Indeed Finding matching cases is even a problem for the general people considering we are having the RTX4090 on the market now KEKW

_dhanos_ · Answer

Uhm I m not sure I m following what do you mean by stacking and rotating It s known you need at least a 2U case and this is what people are mostly going to buy IMO

_dhanos_ · Answer

Yeah this monster 4090

dreacon34 · Answer

I meant having the mounting points on the top and bottom You could screw multiple together and have an actual tower for that you would need to rated by 90degree

_dhanos_ · Answer

But you could also screw 2 together using the smallest walls and rack mount it still within 2U 2 would fit next to each other I think Or just long ears for a single case like you can buy for some switches might work for some people too

_dhanos_ · Answer

I d just love to see a full length 2U case

_dhanos_ · Answer

I m aware I m in a niche Not everyone have a rack in their home

dreacon34 · Answer

I know I just meant that even in the rack mount Team there are so many different wishes because everyone would imagine the perfect rack case different Since everyone powers bis homelab differently Some wants harddrive slots Some don t because nvme is enough etc while all that kinda exists somehow already anyway

dreacon34 · Answer

I wish to have a rack too haha but I consider the TP2 more like a solution for a travel lab

_dhanos_ · Answer

Yes I m aware and I understand This does not change some compromise could be possibly found

dreacon34 · Answer

Digital nomads who don t want to play with AWS but would like to have a local cluster that they could fit into their luggage And many other things that require compact design and easy handling For that the server world doesn t really provide solutions yet

_dhanos_ · Answer

Yeah but then I m not sure if whatever case the Team is going to make if it s going to be really like super small or pack some features like a place to mount some HDDs since some people want to use it as a NAS

_dhanos_ · Answer

For super custom solutions I think there are going to be 3D printable designs made by people

saxman. · Answer

If you go down the rack mount rabbit hole it s going to open up the dozen or so POE standards hole not the right path for right now IMHO

dreacon34 · Answer

You could use cheaper NVMe or buy the Jonsbo V8 for example Would be a perfect fit as NAS case

saxman. · Answer

TPI isn t even a great NAS from what I can tell

dreacon34 · Answer

That also

_dhanos_ · Answer

Huh POE Rack mountable TP2 is not really a rabbit hole You take a case add a PSU put TP2 in and it d done at least in a super barebone case

_dhanos_ · Answer

You do not have a reliable way to RAID NVMes in any way STA would be a way and drives connected to one node

_dhanos_ · Answer

It s enough for many people

_dhanos_ · Answer

Or can be a storage for other nodes for whatever people do on these

dreacon34 · Answer

You don t raid it in a cluster anyway You would need to glusterfs it or something else Each nvme is on a different host

saxman. · Answer

Just state straight up that it isn t designed for NAS uses If you want a nas get a cheap itx mobo with a Celeron and a normal case

_dhanos_ · Answer

This is what I said You cannot RAID NVMe drives and you really don t want to use singular drives as a NAS RAID1 or equivalent is a minimum

saxman. · Answer

Probably cheaper anyways

_dhanos_ · Answer

Well the question is what s designed for then It s an ok NAS and people are running NASes off of RPis already and are happy with them ツ

saxman. · Answer

Design a case that actually complements the need Most existing ITX cases aren t going to have cooling directed to the spots that the TPI needs it

_dhanos_ · Answer

Take into consideration that TP2 contains 2 SATA ports so the official case should probably accommodate for this

saxman. · Answer

Need airflow across the whole board vs just the top where a normal CPU would be

dreacon34 · Answer

As I said You can t even because it s a cluster with 4 host with each one drive And running NAS on a cluster is questionable anyways There is no NAS system that is designed to run on a cluster anyway

saxman. · Answer

Where are the NVME ports at Back side

dreacon34 · Answer

2 5 drives sounds fine to me It would be easy to find a place in the case

dreacon34 · Answer

Yes

_dhanos_ · Answer

But this is what I said You mentioned to use NVMe this is why I m saying SATA would be better for various reasons

_dhanos_ · Answer

And I feel like this thread is just for this to find out what people want

dreacon34 · Answer

This should be an own thread by now

_dhanos_ · Answer

Well probably we indeed should not discuss that here

saxman. · Answer

Please make sure we have lots of clearance there for NVME heatsinks Maybe go dual chamber ish Maybe have the ability to have a pair of 80s blowing across the bottom side of the board to cool NVMes

_dhanos_ · Answer

This would require non standard standoffs hmmm

saxman. · Answer

Or cutouts in the motherboard tray

dreacon34 · Answer

Not sure if it will be a problem The PCIe version are like 2 0 to 3 0 at Max The speeds will probably not cause the ssd to heat up too bad Also since the processing of the data transfer could limit the ssd anyways Maybe

saxman. · Answer

But if it s right next to a metal sheet with no circulation

_dhanos_ · Answer

Assuming there s going to be accessible backpanel like in an ATX cases With this form factor I think a case that the standoffs are mounted to the case directly are more likely an option to keep it small

_dhanos_ · Answer

PCIe 4 0 is supported too

dreacon34 · Answer

Which is fine since this is the office case which is exactly the reason why one should exist For all the non standard stuff If everything would be standard everything would be same

saxman. · Answer

I m personally planning on trying to shove my tpi in the bottom half of a core x9

dreacon34 · Answer

Didn t see that in the specs

_dhanos_ · Answer

I never said it s not ok just noticing this fact

saxman. · Answer

But there is still heat being generated down there without a way to reject it efficiently

_dhanos_ · Answer

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dreacon34 · Answer

You could then even make the case to the heat spreader Adding some thermal pads between ssd and case

_dhanos_ · Answer

What about thermopads if teh case would be metal

dreacon34 · Answer

For the Jetson only Considering this as Pi and RK1 mainly

saxman. · Answer

Not the worst idea Me has flashbacks to the Mac trashcans and cubes

_dhanos_ · Answer

Hmmm Do you think Jetson modules are advertised as supported so should the case support them then

saxman. · Answer

Jetsons can put out some heat if you get em going IIRC

_dhanos_ · Answer

Yeah 10 20 watts of heat

saxman. · Answer

4 in a tiny case adds up

dreacon34 · Answer

Yes but that specific jetson module is like 600$ if I am not wrong Not that many will buy it if you are kinda ending up at a price tag where you could consider an actual new ARM based Gigabyte Server

_dhanos_ · Answer

Ys but they have heatsinks by default and about any FAN would be sufficient to cool them

saxman. · Answer

Isn t that the price of the cheapest CM4 right now

_dhanos_ · Answer

Jetson Nnao 2GB is like $59 If you can find one

dreacon34 · Answer

Yes but doesn t have PCIe 4 0

_dhanos_ · Answer

I meant I think we re considering all options yes no maybe

saxman. · Answer

I for one will be 100 buying some mediocre microcenter pcie4 nvme drives regardless

dreacon34 · Answer

Trying to do that will end in a mess The case will focus on the biggest overlap use case for all of us so that hopefully many will buy it Everyone with the edge cases will have to find their own solutions like always

_dhanos_ · Answer

Yeah this is I think why the Team asked people to find out what would be the best design

dreacon34 · Answer

Right and we aren t trying to create a heater for the cold European winter KEKW

_dhanos_ · Answer

And it s natural people say what tehy want

saxman. · Answer

Right you ask what people want and when they say I need to be able to fit a 480 rad you say no

_dhanos_ · Answer

Well if enough people would want that

dreacon34 · Answer

Dang it I planned to hook up 16 RTX Quadros and make some CAD rendering in the airplane Kappa

_dhanos_ · Answer

Do not forget about built in UPS

saxman. · Answer

Don t get me wrong I d be all for a 240 dad up front to hook to 4 tiny water blocks but that s probably overkill

_dhanos_ · Answer

But only up to 99 Wh

dreacon34 · Answer

Build in IXP please lol

saxman. · Answer

You say that but literally everything in my rack is powered by my 3750x so it automatically is dual powered and UPS d

_dhanos_ · Answer

Yeah but < dreacon34> wants something to take with them on the plane

_dhanos_ · Answer

I do not have an UPS in my rack maybe later but this is not a topic for this thread I think

saxman. · Answer

< dreacon34> ever heard of a laptop with VMware workstation

saxman. · Answer

JK

saxman. · Answer

99 of people really are going to need something to put the TPI in that isn t going to leave it out in the open getting covered in cat hair and tangled up and looking terrible

dreacon34 · Answer

Love it enough when the docker containers are eating up all the RAM while software development

dreacon34 · Answer

I would also see the SD card slots exposed to out side etc and the nvme and 2 5 drive slots exposed over the backside for easy access

saxman. · Answer

Most raspberry pi cases are nothing more than a box Most 3d printers will struggle to print as big as an itx case unlike rpi

saxman. · Answer

Don t expose nvme

saxman. · Answer

Cover that with metal

dreacon34 · Answer

Of course

_dhanos_ · Answer

I think he meant accessible by screws or something

_dhanos_ · Answer

Yeah but people are finding solutions

dreacon34 · Answer

I think we spammed the chat enough I am to bed I hope community isn t to angry about our talk

saxman. · Answer

I REALLY like how lian li does the hot swap drive bays in the 011XL but I m pretty sure that s hella expensive

_dhanos_ · Answer

I have this case and it has an issue but maybe let s move to < 754950670175436848>

amoon0417 · Answer

can some body provide to link to the Etsy store link for this item

Nishant · Answer

Noob question here I see some people mentioned space for 4 SSDs I think 6 was mentioned as well Can someone explain me how you can connect these many SSDs I see only two SATA ports Are they meaning to connect the rest with CM4s How

_dhanos_ · Answer

There are 4 nodes and each has a NVMe port connected to it on the bottom of the board

_dhanos_ · Answer

But it s also important which models do you put into nodes For example CM4s do not have a second NMVe link and can t utilize NVMe slot

_dhanos_ · Answer

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Nishant · Answer

Right right thanks < dhanos > So you can t connect more than two SSDs if you are planning exclusively CM4s

_dhanos_ · Answer

Ignore the PCIe switch part just the photo https cdn discordapp com attachments 754950670175436848 1038448683181686886 pcie switch board jpg

_dhanos_ · Answer

You actualy can and there are different options

_dhanos_ · Answer

First a diagram give me a secind

_dhanos_ · Answer

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_dhanos_ · Answer

So node 3 has 2 SATA ports connected to it via SAT controller but this is what you know

_dhanos_ · Answer

Node 1 and Node 2 have both Mini PCIe slots available You can add more SATA controllers this way

_dhanos_ · Answer

Or you could even use these to convert them to NVMe slots with some adapters

_dhanos_ · Answer

There s also another way when you use an adapter to convert Mini PCie to PCIe and use a normal PCIe controller card of some sort

_dhanos_ · Answer

Oh and not forget that Node 4 has USB ports 2 on the back and 1 connector that you can use to add another ports you can use USB drives too

Nishant · Answer

Interesting Great thanks for this info I am going to look into this I am primarily wanting to play with K3s so I was wondering if I could use the SSDs lying around as node storage But this is pretty cool to learn that there are so many ways

pomstazlesa · Answer

so your argument is dont make a tpi2 case other cases exist

ultrahamz · Answer

Is there a timeline for this case production noticing its now Dec already and not any suggested design drafts yet presumably intent is to ship along with the board

lanbrown · Answer

That is not what you inferred in what you stated Read what you wrote I guess those mini itx cases are just too new and you just haven t had time to look into them I posted about one two days ago it was first made available in 2012 so I guess a decade ago is just too new for you

dreacon34 · Answer

I think that was never the plan It would only delay the board shipment more

_dhanos_ · Answer

No this is not what I said you took it out of context Stop doing this stop negating everything I say and stop provoking

pomstazlesa · Answer

then actually stop doing it you are the one taking everything out of context and provoking

_dhanos_ · Answer

Stop this is not a place for this

pomstazlesa · Answer

your inability to check cpu compatibility height does not make non rack mount cases hard to check for height compatibility

_dhanos_ · Answer

I m asking you to stop doing this

pomstazlesa · Answer

you keep doing this over and over what good have you accomplished nothing all you do is demand rackmount solutions that already exist while look down to everything else

_dhanos_ · Answer

I ve been talking about rack mounted case It does not really matter what actually exists IMO and what does not I d get an official TP2 case instead of any other actually existing case if such existed as I also stated this

_dhanos_ · Answer

If you do not have anything constructive to say please don t Also don t read selectively I m talking about rack mounted case because this is what interests me Why couldn t I I have a rack I m putting everything into rack I d love to have an official TP2 case and it does not matter how many other 2U cases exist This thread is about what everyone wants so the Team can figure out what they d do It does not change that a desktop case is what most people wants and if there is any possibility 2 cases could be made the desktop one should have much bigger priority I said that earlier I m not talking about desktop case features as this is out of my interests And I m going to talk about rack mounted cases I don t see why I couldn t The fact it does not interest you does not mean it should not exist

lanbrown · Answer

Actually it does matter Since such cases exist one could have one ready for when the Turing Pi 2 arrives An official case is going to be later Different people want different things and a rack mount case is a large form factor for a tiny board Also some people have only bought one some have bought two A rack mount case is going to be wide so if someone bought just one that is using a lot of real estate for a single board The idea of having a panel on the bottom to access the NVME would server what purpose If it is in a rack even if you have plenty of space below it it is not convenient at all to get access to it So you need to remove it from a rack and flip it over You know what is even easier using NVME extenders

lanbrown · Answer

If you do not have anything constructive to say please don t Then you state And I m going to talk about rack mounted cases I don t see why I couldn t So why is it that you can post but someone else One could say some of your posts have nothing constructive to say

pomstazlesa · Answer

Alright Mr hypocrite Start reading then especially what you yourself write And start talking about an actual case since all you have currently described is that you want a TPI2 badge not a case ```Why couldn t I I have a rack I m putting everything into rack I said that earlier I m not talking about desktop case features as this is out of my interests And I m going to talk about rack mounted cases I don t see why I couldn t The fact it does not interest you does not mean it should not exist ``` Get a rackifying kit You can rackify virtually anything but you cant unrack a rack ```I d love to have an official TP2 case and it does not matter how many other 2U cases exist ``` Get a badge and put it on a case If you do not have anything constructive to say please don t

pomstazlesa · Answer

and now ill push this further into < 754950670175436848>

_dhanos_ · Answer

I m talking about him attacking me And this is not a place to talk about this Also I finished this topc

pomstazlesa · Answer

No you are not You are a hypocrite and you have state it in your own post Only one who is attacking here are you

lanbrown · Answer

You always have something to say but yet you don t think others should also have something to say They have as much right to say as you do You keep stating things and when you are called out for what you state you try to change what you meant What you meant and what you wrote are two different things Maybe you wouldn t get attacked if you just accept the fact that what you wrote is not what you actually meant The words you chose were not correct Your opinion does not carry higher value than that of someone else So don t try to limit what someone else can say Also don t play the victim either

DECbot · Answer

Just my selfish 2 cents Something rack mountable would be handy I ve got a 2U that I like but I d have to re home that system A 2U that has access to top and bottom that accepts universal slides and two 5 bays for hot swap drives and 4 internal 3 5 bays would hit me right in the feels

DECbot · Answer

A bit like this I just happened to have it out this weekend for some fiddling

myarthuritis · Answer

I would like these 4 things Reasonably compact Rack mountable Wall mountable Simple east access to NVMe bays without having to unmount board from the case

_dhanos_ · Answer

From pure curiosity wall mountable Like you can unscrew ears since rack mountable too and hang it on a wall somehow In which position

damien667 · Answer

Not sure if anyone said this but a m 2 to pci e breakout to add GPU s or NICs or whatever into a 1u or 2u or itx case would be great to have too

teslamax · Answer

What I ve long wanted was a case for 2 ITX boards TuringPi and TuringPi2 plus at least one 5 25 external drive bay Blu ray drive for media ripping

teslamax · Answer

I have that one already but I d like one to hold two

myarthuritis · Answer

Hadn t thought about it too much I don t have a rack in one of the locations so some native ability to wall mount be it with rack ears or with those keyhole mounts would be really nice

_dhanos_ · Answer

VESA maybe Or like these hole to put screw heads inside to hang devices

_dhanos_ · Answer

I think wall mountable case could look cool if you ve had a way to see what s inside

myarthuritis · Answer

I was thinking the keyholes but VESA would work too

myarthuritis · Answer

A lot of people who are starting out with this stuff don t have racks but they ll have a network closet with some wood on the wall for mounting the hardware Would be nice to cater to those as well

_dhanos_ · Answer

Just watched latest Jeff Geerling s video and he mentioned he s been working on a video about rack mount RPi server

_dhanos_ · Answer

Look how tiny the CM4 is there and how easily you can use up all of the space in a rack case This is a commercial server btw

sharpmeal · Answer

Would love something that fits in a 10 rack

Samski · Answer

If you were going to do a rackmount then one that fitted in a network rack would be awesome Could have a seperate expansion unit for drives etc to keep the footprint small

barney4743 · Answer

I ve already seen it here but to reaffirm an optional glass panel or mesh to choose from would be nice for me personally

chrisargenta · Answer

If you are going to design something I would like to see something that I can t already buy off the shelf I see a lot of rack kits and reasonable htpc itx cases out there already For this system I would buy something more akin to the Mac IIci case but for itx toolless entry tower or desktop positioning and stackable optional mounts for rack is fine but stacked on shelf is ok too A half heigh version of Fractal Design Node 304 or Dell Optiplex SFF case might be inspiration Internal standard power supply is very nice and put some pretty node activity lights up front or an lcd for cluster monitoring I love the Snow White design but maybe a darker color Ultimately cooling front to back and low profile are key but a cluster should look like a rack or stack of low maintenance serious machines I would say leave the trendy desk trophy designs for game pcs

kristvb · Answer

One thing I would like Internal power supply I hate the fact that so many small systems come with external power bricks

dreacon34 · Answer

I would like a USB PD based power supply So we could use our 100w PD Chargers to power it It s nice for those who want to care it around with them

pomstazlesa · Answer

i dont think you can have both pretty node activity lights up front or an lcd for cluster monitoring and front to back cooling mind you this would have to also mean that io shield would have to be mesh this is getting more into matx size now like node 304 but taller instead of wider

pomstazlesa · Answer

would be nice but totaly out of scope for a case at max you could make a cutout for something that doesnt exist or just make a cutout for barrel jack and if someone does make a USB PD ATX psu then you could fill that cutout

pomstazlesa · Answer

if it ends up being big enough with enough volume you could put the external power brick inside and just plug in 240v 120v into it it would be nice if there was a single unit compromise between picopsu and sfx psu but this also just doesnt exist

_dhanos_ · Answer

https www adafruit com product 5450 with Pico PSU Assuming that your power brick can output 12V this is a passive cable otherwise you can get a buck converter from 15V or 20V

the_boom_boom · Answer

there s also this https www amazon com Adapter Female 5 5x2 1mm Emulator Trigger dp B0B9R7HP93 no extra cable just stick at the end of the usb pd charger cable these things have just enough smarts in them to talk to your charger and request 12V

_dhanos_ · Answer

Yeah same thing Just make sure your charger can output 12V since this is not in a USB PD standard only 5V 9V 15V and 20V

_dhanos_ · Answer

This is why I mentioned you might need a buck converter or some sort of cable that incorporates it

machinchose · Answer

having a buck converter would surely make the thing more safe power wise

the_boom_boom · Answer

oh wow you re right i dug into this a bit more and as from the usb pd 2 0 standard 12V is not standard even though 3 of the 6 usb pd 1 0 profiles are 12V

pomstazlesa · Answer

guess you find out why using a USB PD for ATX is just not a good idea not actually part of the standard

_dhanos_ · Answer

This is not a not good idea meaning it s not bad There are many chargers that support 12V output even from reputable brands There are cables from reputable brands for 12V power output It does not a big deal that it s not part of the standard if the market coverage for such solution is quite good It s a DYI solution but whole Turing Pi board is for DYI It s enough to check if your charger can output 12V to use this solution same way you ll have to check for 15V or 20V Also I would not be shocked if 12V become a part of the standard but for this to happen there must be an interest which we can clearly see there is This would not be the first example when a non standard feature becomes part of the standard because there was an interest and implementation Whole Turing Pi thing is about DIY ing a solution that fits your needs You can choose which modules you want use as the nodes you can choose what accessories to add you can choose if you want full PCIe WiFi card additional Mini PCIe SATA controllers etc etc Same way you can choose how to power everything accordingly to your setup For example you can choose 15V 20V USB PD charger then use this as the power input https kamami pl 42061 home default usb type c pd trigger 15v 5a no connector jpg then use 15V >12V step down buck converter like this one https pg cdn a2 datacaciques com wm MTU5MzA 3825244003 3623344745 jpg and connect it to the Pico PSU

pomstazlesa · Answer

1 idea being good does not make it suitable the fact is its not a standard yet there is already a rush for calling USB PD despite it not being that if it becomes a standard then its suitable this is not exactly diy suitable even though we are dealing with under 50V here electricity is dangerous dont diy something you have no education about and especially bypassing standards 2 turing pi diy and psu diy are in 2 completely different difficulty levels and scopes dont do such comparisons people will read what youve wrote and hurt themselves or someone else 3 turing pi is also not about diy a solution that fits as you say you dont have the freedom you are describing im not sure if youve checked the tpi2 project but thats not what the board is and last time ive checked there arent 4x pcie 2 0 x1 slots not even one you have specific ports available to specific nodes but you cant You can choose which modules you want use as the nodes you can choose what accessories to add you can choose if you want full PCIe WiFi card additional Mini PCIe SATA controllers etc etc 4 reputable brand should mean nothing to you if you want to be sure something is actually what it says it is it needs to be verified dont just trust brands blindly not even reputable ones follow the USB IF certification on these standards and choose something that did go through testing and did receive an official certification 5 you know what a regular dc psu does turn 240V AC into 12V DC instead of going through all this and if you dont want to carry a DC psu just put it inside and plug your AC main into the case instead 6 specifically for you stop posting misleading suggestions as i said what you are suggesting is dangerous whether you intended it or not this is reckless also why is this topic even here this has nothing to do with a case

_dhanos_ · Answer

Just to make things clear > im not sure if youve checked the tpi2 project but thats not what the board is and last time ive checked there arent 4x pcie 2 0 x1 slots not even one I ve shown multiple times I do know that you can see it in my posts here Node 1 and Node 2 have a Mini PCIe slots that can be adapted to PCIe Both are up to 4x PCIe 4 0 but their availability and standard depends on modules used There s nothing wrong in this solution you can ask Jeff Geerling > you have specific ports available to specific nodes but you cant You can choose which modules you want use as the nodes you can choose what accessories to add you can choose if you want full PCIe WiFi card additional Mini PCIe SATA controllers etc etc This is what I mean but there s no reason to explain it in details with the context it was written with I also multiple times posted answering people what you can do with certain nodes Just a few examples https discord com channels 754950670175436841 1046929765849911356 1046949586297700385 https discord com channels 754950670175436841 754950670175436848 1049004490268880897 https discord com channels 754950670175436841 1048217327851802704 1048862934387925022 > you know what a regular dc psu does I do of course I m not searching for having any argument with you especially not here Just if you want to tell publicly I don t know what I m talking about I feel like I need to make things clear It was easy to check by checking my posts here Please stop discrediting me > specifically for you stop posting misleading suggestions as i said what you are suggesting is dangerous whether you intended it or not this is reckless also why is this topic even here this has nothing to do with a case Multiple people asked about powering TP2s with a USB C as a feature for the case possibly to have something like Pico PSU but for USB power and probably mounting holes in the case that s being designed This is why this topic is here This is also why I proposed an alternative as an answer to their posts if they re interested There s nothing dangerous in this you can ask whoever knows about electronics Taking a voltage from USB and converting it to a different voltage to power something is not unusual If you have any questions for me or you want to still question my knowledge use appropriate channel please but I m really unwilling to reply to these type of messages anymore

pomstazlesa · Answer

There s nothing wrong in this solution realistically yes there is if you are going to convert into something else like regular pcie you will need to mount it again just because you can it doesnt mean that you should i know about the existing solutions but its not reliable long term This is what I mean but there s no reason to explain it in details with the context it was written with I also multiple times posted answering people what you can do with certain nodes Just a few examples then explicitly say it like that your previous post is misleading whether intentional or not I do of course I m not searching for having any argument with you especially not here Just if you want to tell publicly I don t know what I m talking about I feel like I need to make things clear It was easy to check by checking my posts here Please stop discrediting me read it again im not saying you dont know what you are talking about at least regarding psu as such what im saying is that your post is misleading thats not how i meant it will never be an excuse for how you keep wording your posts Multiple people asked about powering TP2s with a USB C as a feature for the case possibly to have something like Pico PSU but for USB power and probably mounting holes in the case that s being designed This is why this topic is here usb c for psu mounting and usb pd psu are 2 different topics one of them belongs here and the other doesnt if you dont see the difference or care about it then you are outright failing as a mod There s nothing dangerous in this you can ask whoever knows about electronics Taking a voltage from USB and converting it to a different voltage to power something is not unusual just because it is not unusual for you or me or whoever knows about electronics is again missing the point from you especially when you are either encouraging people to bypass standards or encouraging mods potentially dangerous to people and devices

GreyMaus · Answer

I have a M 2 wifi card that has antennas so it might be nice to have holes for mounting them

hobowan · Answer

RGB for teh win

tony_690R · Answer

Myself I don t care if it is rack mount I have had rack mounted servers before and I have a datacenter rack in storage My Lab is currently a closet 109 x 39 I simply use 2 small wire shelfs I have 16 physical servers and 32 virtuals I like small footprint systems that consume very little power and heat I would however like to see some external removable drive bays Like the HP Microserver or SuperMicro MiniTower

wvaske · Answer

The main focus of a Turing PI produced case should be enabling features of the TuringPi in a way other cases can t 1 Access to NVMe drives without removing motherboard This is similar to cases that have open space to change the heatsink backplate without removing the motherboard 2 Access to GPIO externally Basically a cable from a set of pins on the case that runs to the GPIO exposed by the TuringPI2 3 Mounting points loops holes standoffs for other maker hardware like microcontrollers If there s spare room in the case we d like to find a way to use it 4 Cutouts for different types of ports serial vga cable passthrough etc that we can pop out and use to install our own ports from various PIs or GPIO 5 Full 3D drawings of the case so we can use it to 3D print other attachments or modifications

Konbert · Answer

As it is a small supercomputer it should have a case like that say a mini cray or some kind of cube case like the next cube Not an ordinary atx case because as someone already said shipping would be too expensive and if it is like all the other cases I d buy one locally

NoOne · Answer

I ve bought the Milo 10 from Silverstone https silverstonetek com en product info computer chassis Milo10 I think its a good fit especially with the pico psu

NoOne · Answer

and you have two height options

mercsniper · Answer

Rack Mount options

_dhanos_ · Answer

I m getting this one for now https www chieftec eu products detail 97 UNC 210M B

_dhanos_ · Answer

Remember you need at least 2U

mercsniper · Answer

I have a 42U rack mostly empty I m good

_dhanos_ · Answer

Mine is already 2 3rd full

mercsniper · Answer

I ve standardized on 14TB drives so I haven t added many shelves yet but just added a SAS3 shelf for SSDs

lanbrown · Answer

I went with the RM 2270 It is 2U supports two mini ITX boards and two flex 1U power supplies

the_boom_boom · Answer

milo 10 looks promising and i ve been wavering between that and the cooler master nr200 which psu and power brick are you getting

warlock925 · Answer

Any idea if a CyberPowerPC SCCO100 will work

warlock925 · Answer

Or if a the Jetson mate case will fit

NoOne · Answer

< the boom boom> I ordered the black pico psu which was also offered on kickstarter the DC barrel jack should fit nicely in the milo 10

the_boom_boom · Answer

i found this https www amazon com gp product B07WDG49S8 it looks identical to what turingpi is offering at almost half the price

pomstazlesa · Answer

different vendor not same worse efficiency and i dont see any documentation at rgeek page seems there is a reason why its so cheap

NoOne · Answer

I don t like ordering via amazon

rottedmood · Answer

I want this

the_boom_boom · Answer

the picture on the turing pi website matches the rgeek pico psu but i wouldn t put too much stock in that as turing pi folks could just as easily pulled a random pic off the net https turingpi com product pico psu

the_boom_boom · Answer

https m media amazon com images I 51lEQ7SVb+L AC SX569 jpg

pomstazlesa · Answer

this is better move out of here this topic has went into too many offtopics anyway by now

deimosian · Answer

I d like a 3U rack case that can hold two stacked TP2 s on one side and an x86 ITX system on the other with one set of standard redundant PSUs for all 3

mak3r · Answer

Also note there are 150 watt 250 watt and probably other output capacity pico psu available Know your power requirements when ordering one

deimosian · Answer

the one offered is 160W

enricko7 · Answer

I m looking for some clarification on the height of the Turing Pi 2 with modules The FAQ says a 68mm case height would work but is that the internal case height How does the motherboard standoff height play into that number I d like to know the height of the board plus modules plus clearance for the bottom of the board Hopefully that makes sense

deimosian · Answer

A standard ATX standoff is 6 35mm

deimosian · Answer

That s a minimum though and you often find they re actually 6 5mm

deimosian · Answer

Boards with m 2 slots on the underside work with standard standoffs

enricko7 · Answer

So do we know if the 68mm includes the standoffs or no

teslamax · Answer

I blogged info for dual ITX rackmount cases https rasmurym wordpress com 2022 12 19 homelab expansion turing pi 2

teslamax · Answer

Note the 1U versions are too short for the TP2 they do fit the TP1 and several server mb s however

tryhardeggplant · Answer

There s also the Cablematic RackMatic 2U dual ITX case

terarex · Answer

Since I m going to use my TPi v2 for a home lab this case looks like it has everything I need want https www thermaltakeusa com the tower 100 snow mini chassis html

unclejoona · Answer

https www youtube com watch v=boKmZKTKXHc ab channel=LinusTechTips this kind of design is nice

warlock925 · Answer

I m looking at 3d printed case or this case KWID ITX Computer Case All Aluminum Soft HTPC Office Single Slot PCIE Desktop Case silver 500005979 https a co d 9njmS3V

LeK · Answer

I totally agree with you

pink6 · Answer

Compact Micro Portable Handle to carry was a good idea Transparent as possible Want to show off the pi not the case At least option of white v black No interest in a rack Already have tons Places for lights would be useful Access to SD and hookups is important Likely use SDDs but also HD for backup storage But plan to have SDDs in separate case next to this one that I can easily disconnect Fans as needed Keep to purpose of TP There are lots of large cases on the market Keep it small

pink6 · Answer

SSDs

hobowan · Answer

I have this one already might go for it add some RGB you know since RGB makes everything run 2x the speed https lian li com product o11 dynamic mini

hobowan · Answer

But seriously from a purely practical perspective won t something more modular and more accessible make sense We would want to swap modules perhaps add in mPCIe cards etc Dissembling a standard PC case would be a hassle right we rather have something more open and or easier to take apart

hobowan · Answer

Maybe a PC test bench style one even Something similar to those https xtia design products xtia xproto 1 https www amazon co uk Cooler Master MasterFrame customizable open air dp B08S6XZ219 ref=sr 1 2 keywords=Cooler+Master+MasterFrame+700+Custom+Test+Bench 2FOpen Air+ATX+PC+Case 2C+Panoramic+Tempered+Glass 2C+Premium+Variable+Friction+Hinges 2C+Built in+VESA+Mount linkCode=gs3 qid=1672318236 sr=8 2

hobowan · Answer

Not at those prices though ahaha

rottedmood · Answer

i was actually thinking of getting this case I do love the dual chamber i REALLY like the lancool as i like the SATA powered fan controller in the case but i feel like it may be too much case for what i need and the space i have Streamcom also has an open bench style mount board that i like and may look more into

warlock925 · Answer

im printing one of these https www printables com model 176107 miniitx pc case v2 with 140mm case fan and low pro

warlock925 · Answer

This and I think there is an IO cover stl that fits

warlock925 · Answer

I have to check it once the tp2 arrives to make sure everything lines up

XZIL R8ED · Answer

I had no idea this thread was here

the_boom_boom · Answer

i ve just ordered this case https www thermaltakeusa com core v1 html

the_boom_boom · Answer

biggest advantage for me was the price at US$59 it s already got a fan and since i m using a pico psu it s easy to access the backside of the motherboard

the_boom_boom · Answer

i also had a psu blanking plate 3d printed at a local public library https www thingiverse com thing 2498885

BadOkami · Answer

An alternate active cooling system rather than running small noisy fans on each CM4 Preferably a couple of 80mm fans attached to the case itself

nsky. · Answer

here can anyone recommend compact PSU that are designed for mini itx cases

terarex · Answer

I m using the Silverstone NJ450 SXL A bit pricey but it s the lowest power fanless fully modular SFX PSU I ve found There are lower power priced ones but they are not modular

enricko7 · Answer

HDPlex has good offerings but they are not a standard form factor Otherwise Corsair makes good SFX power supplies

enricko7 · Answer

The HDPlex 250W is very small and modular ATX power If I didn t already have a 200W Meanwell on hand I d be planning to use a couple for my Turing Pi build

deimosian · Answer

SFX or smaller

nsky. · Answer

Smallest possible which I believe is flex atx

deimosian · Answer

Flex ATX is the smallest commonly available PSU that s not just a PCB

deimosian · Answer

I d probably go with the $100 Silverstone one

deimosian · Answer

if you want to get fancy I think someone s making a modular one now too

_dhanos_ · Answer

HDPLEX GaN is even smaller But the smaller the PSU like this is the more expensive Flex ATX should be fine if it s not noisy due to it s small FAN size in many models

saxman. · Answer

SFX please my $0 02

_dhanos_ · Answer

Yeah I think SFX would be the best choice not as small as FLEX but cheaper and with much more options

_dhanos_ · Answer

Or forget and use Pico PSU only

saxman. · Answer

And bigger install base so less likely to go extinct

saxman. · Answer

I mean one of these at the bottom of the case would totally be great in my book too but overkill https www silverstonetek com en product info power supplies GM400 1UB

_dhanos_ · Answer

But this would be more for a rack case right

_dhanos_ · Answer

For the desktop case IMO either SFX or just Pico PSU case + Pico PSU + power brick might be sold as a single product and the case could be pretty small

saxman. · Answer

I mean if you are designing a case 106mm W x 41 5mm H x 260mm D isn t hard to fit

saxman. · Answer

Nvm just saw the price

_dhanos_ · Answer

Price is one thing but dual PSU I don t think people would want it in a desktop case

saxman. · Answer

Depends what they are running on the 4 cm4s

saxman. · Answer

If they are doing ai training on Jetsons restarting that can be a pain

_dhanos_ · Answer

To be honest no training restart is not a pain I ve done that so many times for many reasons

_dhanos_ · Answer

Also Jetson devices are not really meant for training

saxman. · Answer

My knowledge is admittedly limited Just throwing ideas around

saxman. · Answer

Probably right a ups would satisfy that

_dhanos_ · Answer

If you ask me desktop case an SFX PSU Rack mountable case maybe dual PSU of some sort I can see people wanting to use it I would still opt for a single PSU because of power consumption

saxman. · Answer

Poe tap

saxman. · Answer

Could in theory just not have a PSU and either have have Poe power tap or pull it over usb c If you have a case wall you can mount a module

_dhanos_ · Answer

I proposed a solution for USB C here already

_dhanos_ · Answer

PoE Iono Orin is coming

saxman. · Answer

I use hats at the moment for my 4s The discussion in main chat about inefficiencies of higher power PSU just got my brain churning is all

saxman. · Answer

The whole cluster could be powered by a single IEEE 802 3bt port is all

_dhanos_ · Answer

But PoE if considered should only be an option

saxman. · Answer

Of course Not the ONLY way

saxman. · Answer

https www adafruit com product 3239 something like this but not rubbish

nsky. · Answer

I am wondering about the advantages and disadvantages of using an internal power supply such as Flex or SFX compared to using a pico PSU with an external power brick In addition to the size factor what are some other considerations to keep in mind

saxman. · Answer

Less clutter

_dhanos_ · Answer

I think but this is only what I think and thoughts after what I ve seen on this Discord it s just design choices If you want the case to be super small or unique shaped Pico PSU could be the right choice I see no disadvantages for using Pico PSU with TPi2 excluding some use cases where someone really needs more power You can even make space for 2x 2 5 SATA drives since TPi2 has 2 SATA ports built in and Pico PSU has 3 SATA power plugs where third can be used to power case FANs Even if we think of Jetson Orin devices they re at most 25 W each which still leaves some space power wise for SSDs and a few other devices but how many people will even get close to 160W I ve heard of people that plan on exceeding 160W how want dual PSUs for redundancy want to connect external GPUs or disk controllers HBAs with M 2 > PCIe or Mini PCIe > PCIe adapters want standard PSU because they don t like an idea of external power brick or want the PSU to run super cool But the question to ask is probably how many people want a standard PSU vs Pico PSU Maybe a poll Also worth mentioning standard PSUs draw more power as they are less efficient with small amount of drawn power like 10 20W The advantage of standard PSU however is you have a choice standard PSU or Pico PSU

saxman. · Answer

Dual is admittedly a niche case

saxman. · Answer

This usage is one of those use cases where it s going to be inefficient since everyone else using itx pulls far more power

teslamax · Answer

https a co d 6IB3lbS

teslamax · Answer

I ordered this some time ago for the TP2 hope I didn t make too much of a mistake past the return period

_dhanos_ · Answer

You mean mistake in terms of future TPi2 case or in terms of using it with TPi2 board

dojo.major · Answer

Agreed If you are going for a sleek and minimal case the less clutter you have the better Look at the Apple Mac Mini the 2009 models had an external power brick All later models have an internal PSU and use just a single cable to the outlet

teslamax · Answer

Latter I hope it isn t too power inefficient also doesn t have a switch

_dhanos_ · Answer

Depending on a power supply with 20W of load you might be loosing like additional 5W or so so this is big percentage but then 5W is not a big amount of wasted power

nsky. · Answer

It seems there are no must have things that internal psu brings to the table I think we will go with pico + external for now to keep it clean inside and focus on easy nodes and ports access I got a couple of cases with internal psus and the psu itself brings lot of messy cables plus weight plus size Anyway I ll share concept with the community before moving forward with it

nsky. · Answer

last chance to raise your objection

_dhanos_ · Answer

LMAO

enricko7 · Answer

I definitely prefer internal power supplies

enricko7 · Answer

If you put your Turing Pi case on a shelf you d have a power brick laying there too

enricko7 · Answer

Idk Some power bricks are nice and small too though I just picked one up as a spare travel unit and it s very compact

enricko7 · Answer

120W vs 150W

_dhanos_ · Answer

Just to have some discussion and add my point of view power brick can be usually easily hidden and you end up with a nice looking SFF device like TPi2 in this case especially when you have a window on the side And if you happen to be in a situation where you have a hard time to hide the power brick it s really unfortunate and I understand you but also maybe you could extend the power cord

walkjivefly · Answer

An external PSU on something designed to be powered on continuously especially something with the characteristics of infrastructure equipment is just silly When it became likely the official case will require an external PSU I decided not to wait any longer and pulled the trigger on my order Also bought a SFF case and a regular ATX PSU I don t care if it s not the smallest case possible in fact I want it to be big enough to throw at least 4 2 5 3 5 drives inside don t have the budget for fancy schmancy RK1s etc able to directly use the NVMe slots nor the inclination to wait another 6 months or whatever Most SFF cases don t directly provision such extravagance but they do feature 1 or 2 internal drive bays and enough space for a 2 or 3 slot thick GPU With a bit of jiggery pokery that s plenty of space for 4 8 drives if it isn t the prettiest case or doesn t show off all the flashing lights I m interested in what the cluster can do not that it s an Orac emulator Blake s 7 reference for the uninitiated if the PSU is a bit over capacity quite a lot actually because new 200W ATX or SFX PSUs are hard to find and not cheap The case and PSU cost 85 euros just 10 euros more than a PicoPSU and powerbrick I just need a board to put in it now

the_madowl · Answer

My opinion on external PSU is that they take up almost as much room sometimes as the object they are powering A lot of technology I have use them and it gets messy trying to find space for all of them when they are located together plus all the extra cable they come with too I d much rather have an internal PSU with little to no cable and just have to find a spot for one item

deimosian · Answer

I like really small stuff with USB C power

the_boom_boom · Answer

so what case did you get

walkjivefly · Answer

https www amazon es Sharkoon One Negro Carcasa Ordenador dp B00TL8VN5I Initial impressions are in the pdf The PSU was this one https www amazon es Gaming MPB550 Fuente 80Plus SilentRPM dp B08C33Z2K8 which should be OK so long as no one shorts the +5v rail I found a review which says the SCP works on the other rails but not this one and apparently this is a failing on many PSUs

walkjivefly · Answer

I m hoping the TPi2 turns up before the Amazon returns period runs out just in case either ends up being unsuitable I knew there was going to be a TPi shutdown for CNY but not that shipments were on hold also for the RTC issue Ho hum

elaisbaby · Answer

What are good NAS cases Right now I m looking at the Jonsbo N1 and N2 The N1 looks great but I m worried about heat The N2 looks terrible but seems like a better overall design

saxman. · Answer

I m looking at maybe going with a https www fractal design com products cases node node 304 black myself

nlhelix77 · Answer

Nice I just ordered the QB one as well and a Be Quiet SFX format 450w psu I already have my tpi2 I can ping you this week how the build is going

walkjivefly · Answer

That d be cool thank you My order is still Processing

nlhelix77 · Answer

it fits

nlhelix77 · Answer

More than enough space I ll be checking the frontpanel headers later tonight

nsky. · Answer

everyone what storage option would you use with tpi2 case HDD or SSD and why It s all clear with the NVMe but not clear with additional storage options

damien667 · Answer

Probably ssd Spinning rust might be cheap but it s not fast

dingahayes · Answer

SSDs size and reliability mainly quick access is a plus

kathy.auteberry · Answer

Not yet sure if I ll ditch my current case for the TPi2 case depends on pricing and other things but 3x HDD for me wanted to go 2x HDD only but the newly published documents tipped me over to go for 3x HDD HDD because I ll try to use it as a NAS among other things

nsky. · Answer

why hhd not ssd

kathy.auteberry · Answer

Price

one.true.beepdog · Answer

I d probably use an SSD but I already have an external NAS if I need really massive file storage I don t expect to need more than 1TB SSDs inside the thing Maybe I d go with Spinning Rust if I needed a massive amount of storage

kathy.auteberry · Answer

3x 8 TB SSD would probably burn a hole in my pockets

wahooli · Answer

2 5 bay can fit also hdds

nsky. · Answer

but ssd are cheap now too

DECbot · Answer

Spinning rust for backups and NAS Nvme for local node storage for apps

deefoozy · Answer

This lol

one.true.beepdog · Answer

2TB ssds are still $200 each

_dhanos_ · Answer

HDDs at higher capacities are so much cheaper than SSDs and if you want to use it as NAS HDDs will be fast enough at least for bulk reads and writes I have a bunch of 2 5 and 3 5 HDDs that could be used

one.true.beepdog · Answer

https diskprices com Super handy to compare price per TB and stuff

_dhanos_ · Answer

But I assume there s not much difference SSD or HDD if you assume 2 5

one.true.beepdog · Answer

just for context

kathy.auteberry · Answer

I mean getting cheaper for sure but I got the HDD for 23k JPY each while SSD I m looking at 100k JPY for that capacity

one.true.beepdog · Answer

5TB 2 5 HDD is $99

one.true.beepdog · Answer

that d get me 1TB worth of SSD

one.true.beepdog · Answer

so yeah HDD for capacity SSD for iops

nsky. · Answer

did you get 3 5 or 2 5

_dhanos_ · Answer

My suggestion would be to support 2 or 3 2 5

kathy.auteberry · Answer

3 5

elaisbaby · Answer

Personally I d use all three because I d use tpi2 for a home server with lots of services running HDD for media ssd for netboot nvme for fast cache

nsky. · Answer

hdd or ssd

nlhelix77 · Answer

How much space do you want to use up in a case In the Sharkoon here I have 3 2 5 options and only one 3 5 Looking at the size vs capacity Using 2 5 bays seems to be a logical choice Unless you want to use the drives as NAS drives then 3 5 is key for drives like WD Red Plus or Seagate Ironwolf

_dhanos_ · Answer

They re same form factor this is the advantage of 2 5

greensn0w22 · Answer

I m with kath I already have mt 3 5 HDD drives I m just moving my x86 nas that consume 100w of power to a low energy alternative with pis

hobowan · Answer

Just got myself a Cougar Dust 2 will be putting some SSDs inside

one.true.beepdog · Answer

I d prefer 3 5 for HDD

nlhelix77 · Answer

< nsky > SSD or HDD doesn t matter I guess it s just size of the drives

elaisbaby · Answer

3 5 hdds for me as well

nsky. · Answer

are they Can you please share a url

elaisbaby · Answer

HDD will get me a lot more storage for cheaper

tryhardeggplant · Answer

2 5 SSD and 3 5 HDD I ll probably be getting a 2U that takes a 5 25 bay so I can install 6x SSDs with two miniPCIE SATA controllers I currently run a Gluster cluster on 3 Pis I wouldn t mind having 2x 3 5 bays for the other TPI2 for the two SATA ports for bulk storage

_dhanos_ · Answer

< nsky >

one.true.beepdog · Answer

You can always fit a 2 5 drive in a 3 5 bay tho

deefoozy · Answer

2 5 is the formfactor Ssds are most often that formfactor Hdds also get made in 2 5 but are more common in the 3 5 formfactor

nsky. · Answer

is it 7mm thin

unclejoona · Answer

im going mainly with hdd

_dhanos_ · Answer

Yes but it s also a question of how big or rather how small the case can be

nsky. · Answer

we want to make as compact as possible so 3 5 is not an option

one.true.beepdog · Answer

that s fair

one.true.beepdog · Answer

I can live with that

one.true.beepdog · Answer

I m hoping that folks will make cool 3d printed cases and that there will be enough of a community around that to satisfy everyone D

_dhanos_ · Answer

6 5 7 yes but I also have one that s 9 5cm thick

nlhelix77 · Answer

With the trade off being heat control The smaller the environment the harder it is to handle the heat

unclejoona · Answer

to make it look small u could shape the case to be more vertical

nsky. · Answer

2 5 up to 15mm thick

deefoozy · Answer

When you want support for 3 2 5 drives you could go with a 3 5 bay and fit 4 with an adapter Not perfect cus thicker but it allows for more options than just 2 5

deefoozy · Answer

Or go with a normal case ofc

_dhanos_ · Answer

Up to 15mm will be ok

one.true.beepdog · Answer

But what if I want to hook up DVD burners in there Can we get 3 5 14 bays < sarcasm>

nsky. · Answer

too much

_dhanos_ · Answer

I thought you said it ll be up to 15mm

_dhanos_ · Answer

For a record

nlhelix77 · Answer

Nice Lidl calipers

_dhanos_ · Answer

Haha you re correct All these cheap ones are the same though

_dhanos_ · Answer

In addition to the above photos I found another 9 5mm disk the one above is an SSD and I founf a HDD now

nlhelix77 · Answer

They work perfectly Once acquired the same type for my 3d prints works perfectly as it s the cheapest to have an alloy frame

nlhelix77 · Answer

I have old Intel SSD drive here as well It weighs in at 6 57mm thickness But with the official bracket to fit it snugly in a laptop it is 9 41mm

nsky. · Answer

< Ansy> what is the most frequently asked feature for the turing pi 2 mini itx case

Ansy · Answer

the most frequently asked feature for the turing pi 2 mini itx case is expandability customers are interested in the ability to add additional components such as motherboards storage devices and cooling systems beyond the existing hardware

_dhanos_ · Answer

< this 628607304115159040>

one.true.beepdog · Answer

Modular 3d printed case design

nsky. · Answer

< Ansy> summarize this chat

nsky. · Answer

I think it s time to purchase a subscription

one.true.beepdog · Answer

lol

LeK · Answer

Ssd s at least 2 Advantage no noise and space

ryanwww · Answer

SSD for performance speed is what s necessary for me not tons of raw storage Really wish us Pi users could leverage NVMe like with other platforms similar to this but sadly not an option when using Pis with TPI2

nsky. · Answer

I think we will put space for 2 x 2 5 drives so you can use either 2 5 ssd or hdd

nsky. · Answer

Thank you all guys for your participation

nsky. · Answer

< Ansy> what do you about ssd vs hdd s

Ansy · Answer

Ha ha ha I m a bot not a computer scientist What kind of silly question is that

nsky. · Answer

little sucker

terarex · Answer

You want to accommodate 15mm height SSDs The 7mm ones tend to be lower capacity

the_boom_boom · Answer

that s a very reasonable design choice and it should satisfy most people s requirements unless space is really at a premium though i would suggest allowing for a single 3 5 hdd in place of the 2 x 2 5 drives that would work better for price sensitive applications that require more storage like a home media server take a look at the silverstore milo 10 for instance the drive bracket which is located above the motherboard can be used in either configuration

batz_10k · Answer

It would be nice to have provision for a pi hat connected to the gpio header on the Turing pi maybe an extension cable and a mounting point somewhere in the case

saxman. · Answer

I mean the cm4 is only 1gb anyways so 3hdd should keep up

_dhanos_ · Answer

CM4 are 1 to 8 GB unless you mean your CM4s

saxman. · Answer

I meant networking in response to the NAS use case Regardless of how fast you get data the drives it won t serve it faster than that Unless using a PCI E nic that is faster which chews into the available lanes

_dhanos_ · Answer

Oh you mean 1 Gb s You can utilize SSDs on CM4 for both speed and low latency

_dhanos_ · Answer

Not all HDDs will keep 125MB s in read write

saxman. · Answer

They are getting better actually but you re right

_dhanos_ · Answer

Yeah but latency and random access is nowhere near to SSDs

_dhanos_ · Answer

SSDs are also noiseless

saxman. · Answer

Very true It will be interesting to see how people use these I think the RK1 will see a lot of storage usage especially as persistent storage for like k8 clusters with nvme cache and sata storage

_dhanos_ · Answer

Correct also things like databases which benefit from SSDs a lot and similar things

_dhanos_ · Answer

Even if this is just SATA drive the performance difference is quite big

pink6 · Answer

Is there any way to use nvme m 2 with the CM4 on TP2 I know it s not native Just wondered if anyone has

_dhanos_ · Answer

I tried with Mini PCie to M 2 and it does not work kernel panic and CM4 does not boot https discord com channels 754950670175436841 754950670175436848 1074064062100537375

unjeh · Answer

For the ones still looking for a 10inch case I see this might be an option https www myelectronics nl nl 10 inch 2u mini itx case html

unjeh · Answer

If some 1 is interested I m happy to supply some pics when it does arrive

luckydogxl · Answer

Room for at least 2 80mm exhaust fans and easy clean filtered air intake Extension of as many internal connectors to external case as possible but priority should be keeping as small as possible and case quality as high as possible

lfelder · Answer

This case looks great They do also have a desktop variant of it at least available for backorder https www myelectronics nl us desktop mini itx case html I would appreciate it if you could share some pictures

unjeh · Answer

I will do so next week in a seperate topic edit see other topic which may give a general idea

unjeh · Answer

think the desktop case is similar just with a different front

_hauo · Answer

the desktop case is on its way to me can also provide some pictures once I received my tp2

Ansy · Answer

Yeah I m sure you do

machinchose · Answer

image from https www kickstarter com projects turingpi turing pi cluster board posts 3749134

ghost404. · Answer

Wonder why the case is so big Could of made a small sff case designed for pico psu and as small as possible There are plenty ITX cases this size already Rather disappointed its so big

_dhanos_ · Answer

How is it big It barely fits the motherboard that s the Mini ITX size Look closely at the pictures It looks like the case is going to be about 20x20cm of size if not smaller It can t be any smaller as it would not fit this tiny board

the_boom_boom · Answer

can i put the case on its side and stack them also can i mount a single 3 5 hdd in place of those two 2 5 ssd s

roderickchan · Answer

I found the perfect case for me Lian LI PC TU100 Doesn t blocked mobo at the back for nvme case can be opened from both side comes with handle and classic look

_dhanos_ · Answer

Nice

domokoen · Answer

if only you could still buy it

tony_690R · Answer

Is there any kind of update on the case What kinds of cases have folks used that they are really happy with

the_boom_boom · Answer

i ve seen a number of people including myself go for thermaltake core v1

LeK · Answer

How about the case that was shown in the Kickstarter page

enricko7 · Answer

I m using the NFC S4T case with L expansion Working on some custom bits to make the PSU work

elaisbaby · Answer

I was looking into this case So cm4 modules + Mobo fit without extension into the normal case

Nishant · Answer

I am eagerly waiting for the updates on the official case actual pictures and videos but then I am also waiting for RK1 updates

enricko7 · Answer

If I understand you re question the answer I think is yes The Turing Pi 2 with CM4 adapter boards fits in an S4T Dunno about other module types If they match the dimensions of the CM4 carrier boards they will fit

elaisbaby · Answer

Awesome ordering this case today

enricko7 · Answer

What are you planning for power supply The case integrates with HDPlex nicely

elaisbaby · Answer

I was thinking just the pico and using the extra space for a couple of fans

elaisbaby · Answer

I m even looking into integrating a 2 5gbe pcie module and riser to get better networking in node 1 I think that s achievable with the soquartz modules I purchased

enricko7 · Answer

I ll mention too that 80mm m 2 drives can t be installed with the board in the S4T

enricko7 · Answer

60mm would be fine

elaisbaby · Answer

How tall are your risers

_dhanos_ · Answer

I should finally test these

_dhanos_ · Answer

And these

_dhanos_ · Answer

I have 10 Gb s cards that I could test

_dhanos_ · Answer

You can desolder redundant standoff it s actually quite easy to do

enricko7 · Answer

I mean the m 2 slots on the back of the board

enricko7 · Answer

No risers the built in slots I can take a picture tomorrow

elaisbaby · Answer

I ll be shook if you can do 10gb s networking

_dhanos_ · Answer

Not on the CM4 and compatible modules since on the Mini PCIe there s a single PCIe 2 0 lane exposed which means not more than 5Gb s But with the Jetson Nano module the one I have has an SD card so I could use the NVMe which has 4 PCIe 3 0 lanes and try to achieve 10Gb s this way

elaisbaby · Answer

Interesting

elaisbaby · Answer

Giving the command node 10gb s would be great for my eventual home cluster

goatherder. · Answer

I do not want rack mounting nor do I want to see the blinking lights As I am going the board to prototype an idea the following case was ideal dust cover easy panel access room for 2 sata drives and a single HDD however what really sold it was a handle which meant it was portable Probably not on people s agenda but this what I am planning to use is https hyte com store revolt 3

randomblock1 · Answer

The cheapest most compact Mini ITX case I could find on Amazon I don t have much space + 3D printed IO shield https a co d 0s8zSjm Also I crammed a 120mm fan in there just because

phantom79 · Answer

Mind sharing a picture with TPI put in

ryanwww · Answer

Oh nice looks exactly like what I m looking for Did you have to modify it in any way What modules do you have installed They clear the top okay Does it fit standard io shields I got one with TPi2 or is custom one necessary

randomblock1 · Answer

Beware that there is virtually no space for fans if you have a full 4 nodes Maybe some 40mm fans but only if you cable manage well I just 3D printed the shield since it was cheaper than buying it a normal one should work I just have 1 CM4 IDK if the holes on the sides will fit a fan screws so you might have to drill it Currently I have a normal PC fan taped to the top but only because there are 3 empty slots However this is perfect if you don t plan on having any fans Doesn t come with standoff screws so NVME probably won t fit without them

ryanwww · Answer

Thanks for the info Not using NVMe currently so not worried there I have quite a few AC Infinity USB fans so I might just put some fans sitting on top pushing cool air in

randomblock1 · Answer

Yeah that should be fine It is really compact and cheap so a few compromises is fine

ryanwww · Answer

I am gonna try this version actually It s next day delivery instead of 1 2 months lol https a co d 9e2FMIT

ryanwww · Answer

Looks like it s 3 3in tall vs 2 4 so maybe I can fit some sort of low profile fan in there We ll see Thanks for the tips I ll post back how it works out later on

unamanic · Answer

I went with a couple of these for my pair of Turing Pi s https a co d eDOKWeo They arrive on Monday so we ll se how they go

goatherder. · Answer

SSD only use HDD for external NAS

tony_690R · Answer

My TPI2 just barely fits in this case https www amazon com gp product B00FFJ0H3Q ref=ppx yo dt b asin title o02 s00 ie=UTF8 th=1

ryanwww · Answer

I got my Goodisory in today and it s a perfect fit for the TPi2 Thanks for the advice < randomblock1> and < dhanos >

_dhanos_ · Answer

Nice Thanks for sharing

ryanwww · Answer

Works great with the pico PSU and IO panel as well No modifications needed whatsoever https a co d 9e2FMIT

ryanwww · Answer

Only downside is no access to the microSD or NVMe slots on backside without removing the mobo but not an issue for me personally

_giblet · Answer

Anyone familiar with the old Shuttle computers I think I have an ancient one somewhere in the basement I might try and dig it out I m not sure if they were mini itx some other standard or something proprietary

ryanwww · Answer

Some of Shuttle s stuff was proprietary

ryanwww · Answer

And then I think micro ATX

ryanwww · Answer

I wanna say mini ITX was a later thing for Shuttle

_giblet · Answer

Fun tidbit SFF was apparently originally Shuttle Form Factor and then later became Small Form Factor

ryanwww · Answer

I only owned one shuttle case I wanna say in like 2008 or so It was my Windows Media Center HTPC I liked it

ryanwww · Answer

Back in my Hauppauge CableCard days Dark times

ChristianGeek · Answer

Any room for a fan

ryanwww · Answer

There are no pre cut drilled spots for a case fan to be installed I suppose you could with slight modifications figure out a way to mount some fans either to the side panels the top panel clearance between top of CM4 carrier and bottom of top panel is roughly 15 18mm not sure about other modules or maybe even some sort of exhaust using the vents above the IO shield All sides except the front are slotted for airflow Personally I plan to try and run with passive cooling only on my CM4s heatsink on each module

unamanic · Answer

I have heatsinks with fans for each of the CM4s https a co d 9qRFgZk though I ll need to hack the connectors together

tony_690R · Answer

This is a Shuttle XP case I think it would fit but the USB ports on the front might be a challenge as this arrangement seems semi proprietary I loved these cases though I simply would like the same kind of case for my TPI2

costa_al · Answer

Hello everybody We consider one of the cooling configurations with a large fan 120x120mm and heatsinks without fans on the modules On the pictures below we calculate the air velocity and temperature for 4x Orin NX 16 GB RAM with heatsinks and Arctic P12 PWM PST SLIM fan The maximum temperature with this configuration is only 44C I would happy to hear from the community what are the pros and cons of this cooling configuration

costa_al · Answer

For comparison when we placed a fan on the back of the case IO shield the cooling configuration of 4 fans on the modules and 1 on the case gave a temperature of ~62C

costa_al · Answer

The main question is what are the pros and cons of a cooling configuration with a single 120x120mm fan on top

tony_690R · Answer

Looks like it has room I am assuming there is a tray that goes across the top for mounting drives It looks like there is room but if you did put the plate and the drives would there be adequate room

tony_690R · Answer

I am no engineer and at first I was not that keen on a fan on the top I am assuming a lid If it kept things cooler and there is clearance then great If it or the lid was easy to remove even better I am not sure what kind or how thick the rear fan would be Also wouldn t the bigger fan spin at lower speeds and make less noise I suppose all of that is also determined by the type of fan

ryanwww · Answer

That s a good point and question Yes there is a bar that goes across the top with several screw holes I have that out right now cause I am still installing my CM4 modules I should have them all installed and will put the plate on and take some additional pics and measurements when I get a chance Probably tonight or tomorrow

dojo.major · Answer

I m not opposed to the idea but if it is on top then that implies it would be hard to stack something else on top of this box Maybe have a optional 10mm lid that can go on top of that fan Make pre threaded screw holes for motherboard offsets that could be used for such a plate in the four corners Just my $0 02

_giblet · Answer

Do you have the top fan as intake or exhaust In most PC builds you would want them exhausting Have you tried running the simulation with case on its side and the fan blowing as an intake

_dhanos_ · Answer

I ve been thinking about it a bit The only downside is probably you cannot put a window there and expose the inside beauty Can you put 2 fans in the back blowing air onto and across the nodes and measure the temperature This is kind of how I would see it I think You cannot really do this in the front since the PicoPSU is going to be in a way 60 ish C is still far far from thermal throttling which is 99C And I do not mean to run the modules even hotter the cooler the better of course I m also kind of thinking of some sort of ducts to direct the air onto the module heatsinks either from a single or 2 fans and then you can position them the fans anywhere

ryanwww · Answer

So confirmed it s about 16 17mm from top of CM4 carrier board to the lid without the top SSD tray installed It s about 14mm from the top of CM4 carrier board to the bottom of the SSD tray

ryanwww · Answer

The top tray does hold a 2 5 SSD maybe HDD too size depending and can mount in either direction

ryanwww · Answer

Curious tho are others running any SSDs off of the pico PSU If so is there some breakout cable you are powering them with Or is anyone installing any SATA storage having to go the ATX PSU route

_dhanos_ · Answer

Well I m in the middle of this project

_dhanos_ · Answer

They all are powered from a PicoPSU

_dhanos_ · Answer

Better look at the power

_dhanos_ · Answer

I m using 1 to 6 SATA power cable

_dhanos_ · Answer

You can also just buy Y splitters

_dhanos_ · Answer

And no you do not need ATX PSU The PicoPSU provides 3 SATA power plugs should be more than you need DO you have any particular problem with them

ryanwww · Answer

Oh I am dumb there is a breakout cable still in the box for the JST type connector with 3x SATA power plugs on it <a keklaugh 663291006183014411>

_dhanos_ · Answer

Oh i did not think you just simply missed it

ryanwww · Answer

Yup I am dofus haha

ryanwww · Answer

That s cool you are getting 5 drives off the pico psu tho I assume they are all SSD so decently low power consumption

_dhanos_ · Answer

They re HDDs

_dhanos_ · Answer

And I have 2 SATA port replicators for a total of 10 drives

_dhanos_ · Answer

This project is in progress and I ll share the results soon ish

camsab · Answer

I got the same case yesterday in red and so far loving it I have not yet added a fan as only have 1 CM4 for now and is not getting super hot but eventually will Did you install any already is a shame the opening on the case are on the sides

ryanwww · Answer

No fans heatsinks only

goatherder. · Answer

Can all the nodes see the 10 drives or only 5 each

camsab · Answer

Same so far max 50C for me

tony_690R · Answer

< ryanwww> Thank you for confirming pictures are worth 1000 words

tony_690R · Answer

Looks like you made your own caddy That is slick I would like to do something like that except hot swap type enclosure Not that I care if it is truly hot swapable I just like to be able to easily swap drives in my lab ie power down and put other disks in

_dhanos_ · Answer

Only Node 3 will see them since they re connected to Node 3 s SATA controller but you can share the storage via NFS or SMB

_dhanos_ · Answer

Yes I designed it as well as a few other things here and it s only to hold things together I might make anotehr version that lets you hot swap

tony_690R · Answer

Nice Yep a hot swap carrier would be greatness

ryanwww · Answer

No prob happy to help <a HyperHeart 657416812421447681>

_dhanos_ · Answer

The design currently lookslike this this is an old revision though I ll have to think how to reinforce it and make it so you can hot swap Nothing will hold the drives in place

tony_690R · Answer

Pretty clean design I am horrible with 3d printing I do have 3 CNC hobby machines which I can make things with I guess I am more of a grinder than a welder

_dhanos_ · Answer

The print here isn t great either but I m using a filament I don t care about for the prototype printing and I don t care about it because it s usually cheap and this means also has issues

tony_690R · Answer

It always seemed like a good method for prototyping to me I probably need to just buy a decent printer One was 50$ from GoodWill and UPS ended up re imbursing me th 50$ cause they damaged it so basic free and I have a 149$ ender

_dhanos_ · Answer

I m using Creality CR 10S a bit modded but it s still CR 10S pretty good printer even if there are many more decent ones now

tony_690R · Answer

Thanks when I get a chance I am going to buy a better one I do like this type design Extruded aluminum I just need more practice and time

raystriker98 · Answer

So the Goodisory A01 seems like a good fit for the TP2 but what about the A09 Costs the same on Amazon is slightly larger and ~~seems better ventilated ~~seems to have better potential for coolinghttps www amazon com gp product B09KZVNZ49 ref=ox sc act title 1 smid=A1K05DPNJQHH4K psc=1

geevax · Answer

So I had to post still putting it all together but everything fits nice in this case Roku remote for size comparison sitting on top of the 200w included power supply Room for 2 SSD on the back comes with power splitter Only concern is there are no fans so will see how it does with heat https www amazon com dp B096CBLR7T psc=1 ref=ppx yo2ov dt b product details

_complacent · Answer

i really like this

_dhanos_ · Answer

This SATA cable looks so thick even when you put this remote for scale

m3ie · Answer

Nice to see a compact case with built in PSU The J HACK cases also seem to have a similar solution Something for the upcoming official case

enricko7 · Answer

This picture hopefully illustrates what I mean You can t swap 2280 drives with the TPi2 mounted in the S4T You d have to take the board out and install the drives or do other things

enricko7 · Answer

I m also surprised annoyed that neither the TPi2 or my m 2 drives came with m 2 screws

tony_690R · Answer

I really like this case I couldn t tell what modules you had installed It looked like CM4 Can you use M 2 drives with the CM4

enricko7 · Answer

I ve just been mocking up the build

enricko7 · Answer

I have 4 cm4 carriers installed but planning to do one CM4 and three RK1s in each board

enricko7 · Answer

Maybe four CM4s four RK1s Not sure

tony_690R · Answer

Ah I gotcha I should get that me too except I haven t decided on a case yet I am just using a CM HAF Evo case now for POC It is a great case but the TPI2 board is soo small This one is on my short list thank you for posting the pics

enricko7 · Answer

The NFC discord is a pretty cool place too just saying

enricko7 · Answer

If you need build help

enricko7 · Answer

I m much more of a mechanical person doing software things rather than the reverse

tony_690R · Answer

not sure if me but any discord that is helpful I am keen to look I think I have things figured out so far but mostly from the TPI site and searching this forum I just need some CM4 cards with more memory or I would love to try the RK cards if they become availalb e

praveerk · Answer

Dimensions of the case if matches Mac Studio and has built in power supply then it would be awesome Just the top and bottom panel should be easy to access

ChristianGeek · Answer

This looks really nice please follow up with heat results

geevax · Answer

So with the case vertical the lowest CM4 idols at about 45c and the top most is around 52c If I lay it flat all CM4 idol about 48c This is with zero fans in an office room that is about 21c

dourgon · Answer

Potentially looking to get the same Goodisory MX01 case Did you receive yours and if so do you have any feedback on how well they fit the TP2 with CM4s

unamanic · Answer

Everything fits well Ventilation is mostly on the sides and top I have active cooling on my CM4 heatsinks so this works fine for me If you re looking to add case fans it might be a little difficult though smaller ones could be attached to the sides The HD mount points are on a brace that runs directly above the modules there s somewhere between a quarter and a half inch clearance between the top of the modules and the brace 7 12mm The PicoPSU barrel plug fits through one of the openings without mods And two of them will fit side by side on a rack shelf how I m using them

dourgon · Answer

Fantastic Thank you for the detailed feedback Mind sharing what you use for the active cooling on the heatsinks I can kind of see on your second picture but not sure what those are Currently I have simple Waveshare heatsinks ready on my CM4s but I do worry it might get hot in that case with no fans my initial plan

unamanic · Answer

I ended up going with 4 of these https a co d 7p0Sq1R and one of these https a co d 9EBM30B The CM4s seem to top out at about 70 C under a stress test with the fan controller set to low speed when clocked at 2 Ghz The controller is double sided taped to the narrow part of the brace

dourgon · Answer

Cool Thanks again for all the details I appreciate it I am going to get one of these MX01 and see how it goes with the plain heatsinks and might consider upgrading to a setup like yours Nice build

praveerk · Answer

Hi Everyone My board also arrived yay Wanted to create a small foot print system and therefore want a small power supply I am not an expert in power supply but wanted to know if the following power supply be will work for turing pi 2 board https amzn eu d 5k2VUZN

_dhanos_ · Answer

Yes that d work but people usually are using Pico PSU Turing Pi sells this https turingpi com product pico psu but you can buy different ones It s smaller and more convenient it plugs into the ATX power connector directly

eatcodegame · Answer

In Win Chopin Pro works great

tony_690R · Answer

Yep Chopin for the In Win I do like the case and it did impress me but I am still very interested in what Turning will do I do understand putting the fan on the top or the front that Turing is thinking about If cards every become available I would like to use a different case I do like small footprint but for my cluster I would like the case to be taller or wider depending on how you look at it

praveerk · Answer

In win looks like the best option for me too I checked it s power supply and it says 12V 10A Wanted to know if I am seeing the right thing and if it is sufficient for a build that has 4 orin nx 16gb modules I e max configurations

_dhanos_ · Answer

120W might not be enough I ve seen max power draw of the Orin NX of about 35W so that s alone mean 140W then add the board itself NVMe drives and whatever you add to it

machinchose · Answer

Do you have easy access to the back for the sd cards nvme

phantom79 · Answer

How much spacing is available for back of the board NVMe assuming flat M2 screws

unamanic · Answer

The bottom of the tray is the bottom of the case so only what would be left with normal MB tray standoffs I don t have a spare drive to put in but I wouldn t thing there would be very much

phantom79 · Answer

good to know problem with standoffs is yes they create space but then mess with the positioning of the cutouts in IO shield

eatcodegame · Answer

You don t I populated them before hand in preparation of getting RK modules hopefully this year You have access to everything else I plan minimal need for swapping those out but if needed it wouldn t be too much of a hassle few screw and unplug a few cables

enricko7 · Answer

Just throwing it out there that the case I m using for my Turing Pis is almost out of stock And if you re going higher power with your modules there s a 250w power supply from HDPlex that integrates very nicely with it

machinchose · Answer

with shipping a $216 USD case is almost as expensive as the Turing Pi2 board

phantom79 · Answer

For the TPi case that is being designed will the 40 pin gpio be exposed as well to the front of the case

walkjivefly · Answer

Not strictly true The first set I got from Amazon last week was only 0 1mm resolution They went back Second set was 3 times as expensive but 0 02mm resolution But I got a duff one wouldn t zero couldn t change units displayed a constantly changing random number for the length They went back Third set was more money but 0 01mm resolution allegedly and works fine

_dhanos_ · Answer

Ok I unnecessarily generalized In my case I ve seen many different brands based on the same design but indeed you re right there are also different designs out there

msgilligan · Answer

There s a 200W model https www in win com en gaming chassis chopin max

_dhanos_ · Answer

200W will be enough for sure

msgilligan · Answer

< tony 690R> < eatcodegame> I am trying to assemble my system with the Chopin Max What did you do to attach the front panel LED switch connector

eatcodegame · Answer

What trouble are you having

msgilligan · Answer

The connector doesn t fit because it has one of the connectors filled in Maybe I just need to cut or remove that pin I m still at home so I don t have it in front of me at the moment

msgilligan · Answer

You were able to just attach it without modification

eatcodegame · Answer

I used a small pin and removed the extra material that filled that connector

msgilligan · Answer

That sounds like a better solution I ll do that when I get to the office Thanks

eatcodegame · Answer

Need anything else just reach out

msgilligan · Answer

One drawback to the case perhaps this a drawback to most all cases is that I ll need to remove the motherboard when I add M 2 cards

eatcodegame · Answer

Agreed I have 4 space 1tb laying around I added them in for the future

eatcodegame · Answer

In the end its only a few screws and plugs if needed to pull and swap but they was collecting dust so they can collect less dust under the motherboard

msgilligan · Answer

The other drawback but it s the price you pay for the small size is you can t add 3 5 SATA HDDs if you want to take full advantage of the SATA on slot 3

eatcodegame · Answer

True I added two sata ssd to in the case but for the most part if has everything I need for what I am using it for

msgilligan · Answer

Yeah if I get to the point where I want 3 5 drives I ll probably by a new TP2 and case

tony_690R · Answer

Like folks said just used a tiny screw diver to push out the insert on the connection Plugged right in and worked first time Easy peasy

enricko7 · Answer

My Turing Pi 2 installation is coming along Pretty well ready to start doing stuff with it now

walkjivefly · Answer

That looks very neat and tidy Good luck finding modules for the remaining slots

tony_690R · Answer

Which Case is this I guess it fits 2 mini itx boards Are the boards mounted to trays and can slide out

enricko7 · Answer

It s an S4T from NFC Systems with an expansion kit Bit of a boutique case but I wanted to use it for this application The expansions aren t readily available anymore though The boards are fixed to the case no sliding

walkjivefly · Answer

Added a 10x 7mm SATA SSD or 8 SSD + 2x 9mm HDD caddy to my Sharkoon QB1 Has provision for 2x 5010 fans if required Just need a load more disks now

tony_690R · Answer

Cool case I have always dreamed of having a modular case where you could plug motherboards in I know some manufacturers already do it In anycase nice rig

myonlinepi.uk · Answer

Does anyone have experience of using TuringPI with Fractal Design Node 304 I have 2 boards one I want to be able to use with 3 5 HDD for the second board I am tempted to wait for Kickstarter project case Is there another alternative with similar form factor I should look at rather than 304

colinriddell · Answer

The new cast design as shown on https turingpi com tpi case current status look brilliant Though I m a bit confused the current design is the one without the case fan over the computing modules

nsky. · Answer

it is with the fan

colinriddell · Answer

gotcha but with no air holes on the top of the unit

colinriddell · Answer

ah I see grates looking closer nice

nsky. · Answer

we are still working on it

teslamax · Answer

are there rough exterior dimensions for the official case

myonlinepi.uk · Answer

Yes approx dimensions and the case material would be good to know

teslamax · Answer

I like to make use of my rack chassis so if I could put the official case co located with another device on the same shelf it d help me decide upon a transition from the 2U case I m using now

mentaltam · Answer

I put mine in a 304 I also managed to fit the power supply and an extra sbc pcengines not attached to the turing and still have enough room to fit 4 HDD s in it

mentaltam · Answer

Waiting for the rk1s to know how good it is for heat but with 3 fans and the amount of space I think it ll hold up ok

mentaltam · Answer

It dropped my sbc s temp a sig amount as it was in a fanless enclosure

mentaltam · Answer

The only thing you would need I think is 3pin to 4pin fan adapter if you want the stock fans to work 1 of them i have attached to the 2 pin fan header atm

mentaltam · Answer

I will add that the pcengines sbc is just loose in the case taking up a slot where 2 HDD s can fit otherwise it would fit 6

phantom79 · Answer

Is there a rough idea of the cost for the case Or too soon to know

daboone72 · Answer

I prefer the 120mm fan option over the 60mm will make it nice and quiet and looks like you had a Noctua in mind for that

blackphoenixx85 · Answer

Does the spacing allow for nvme with heatsink

01dcod3r · Answer

I m loving where this design is going I can t wait to get one How about a spot for a fan controller

schdrucke · Answer

There is an idea why don t you offer your case design also as 3D print files Would also trigger people customizing it which most likely will broaden audience by people wanting to know what this is about by finding remixes on Printables and thingiverse and the like

wizard.fire · Answer

I was also considering a Chopin Pro Max but it s still too big I have no need for 2 5 drives an sff psu or anything too fancy I just want it to be quiet and compact with all nvme for storage

blackphoenixx85 · Answer

I would love to have 3D printable files it will allow to make some modifications and people who want 3 5 drives will be able to print a modified case themself

blackphoenixx85 · Answer

Request 1 Please allow for spacing so that NVMe with HeatSinks can be placed

blackphoenixx85 · Answer

Proposal Would it be possible to make some kind of flip open on top of the fan so the grid where the air flow is going can be opened like a door and you can slip in and out a filter just like a vacuum cleaner I know this may sounds weird but it would be very handy if you can place and replace clean some filter to protect the internals against dust etc Just a thought I had

scraggy · Answer

I am using the https www silverstonetek com en product info computer chassis Milo10 which is rather similar to the proposed specs and I want to share a few takeways 1 the I O shield becomes useless if you need to add standoffs in order to make room for the NVMe modules MiniSTX shows the way If not needed the space under the board could be used by a 9 5mm optical drive or an SD card reader 2 When used with CM4 the mini PCIe slots likely will be consumed by USB or SATA expansion cards to accommodate SSD storage Provide ample mounting options for USB to M 2 or SATA to M 2 adapter boards Built in options similar to what the Argon One case provides for the RPi would be fantastic perhaps as options under the mainboard 3 Make the BMC storage card easily accessible 4 Provide an inbuilt TTL to USB A female adapter Nobody uses DP9 anymore

fn0rd · Answer

shrug can just use RS232 to USB connector https www startech com en us cards adapters icusb232

fn0rd · Answer

they re available on AliExpress and dropshippers as well

_dhanos_ · Answer

Nobody uses DP9 anymore Can you feel a look of all the server admins

fn0rd · Answer

think i used one on my Amiga 500 too

fn0rd · Answer

or it was a DS10L don t remember

fn0rd · Answer

a friend soldered it for me

nsky. · Answer

We are getting closer

_dhanos_ · Answer

This looks nice

the_boom_boom · Answer

yeah looks real nice i wish they were stackable though

fn0rd · Answer

looks stackable to me

thegoldbug · Answer

Might need a spacer between them unless they have rubber feet

fn0rd · Answer

or put your own rubber feet on them costs nothing on Amazon

the_boom_boom · Answer

the fan is on the top though

fn0rd · Answer

can it stand on the side

_naphta · Answer

not sure how well covered it is in this thread but the MILO10 fits everything a treat with a 140mm fan on top just

fn0rd · Answer

not like 3 or 4 2 5 SATA

nsky. · Answer

they are

nsky. · Answer

yes

the_boom_boom · Answer

wouldn t stacking them restrict the airflow

nsky. · Answer

not really There are 5mm rubber fits and based on heat calculations should be enough

phantom79 · Answer

< nsky > Any possibility of exposing the GPiO pins as well thru the front or rear side

laibe · Answer

+1 for enough NVME spacing to fit a heat sink

domokoen · Answer

so did you have to add standoffs with the Milo10 case Or does this case have enough room to use the NVMe modules without standoffs

scraggy · Answer

rn I m using CM4s only but I checked there s about 5mm space under the board without standoffs which should give you a comfortable 1 2mm gap between bottom plate and the mounted SSD without heatsink I m not proud of my free floating Slot 1 USB SSD hack but doing this kind of thing with a purpose built case would feel wrong on so many levels For the Milo 10 this only works with the 120mm fan btw and the case could not be a mm less in height

KillerWhatHour · Answer

Some glamour shots of my turing pi2 setup just waiting for a couple more parts to arrive Jetson Nano TX2 s and a couple of M2 SSD s

_dhanos_ · Answer

Nice photos

_dhanos_ · Answer

Also looks nice in the Fractal Torrent Nano

walkjivefly · Answer

you clearly need some more fans

KillerWhatHour · Answer

Definitely overkill for the application but it should never overheat

KillerWhatHour · Answer

Seems to be the perfect case for it you can easily access and hide all the drives even the m2 ones on the back of the board

batz_10k · Answer

How are you controlling the fan and case LEDs

KillerWhatHour · Answer

I m using a remote RGB controller https www amazon co uk dp B09HR1S9KV psc=1 ref=ppx yo2ov dt b product details

lamawithonel · Answer

This is so clean This is what I was hoping for from the TPi case What are those PSU adapters

rexter0 · Answer

This might not just be a case issue but I d like to see 4 dedicated sd card slots for flashing each module instead of having to swap modules to node 2 to flash and keep opening things up and swapping things around I have multiple orin modules and would like to have built everything put it in the case and the started with a software focussed part of the installation

01dcod3r · Answer

Has anybody tried this fan controller I m thinking of initializing it from node 1 I2C on boot See any problems with this https learn adafruit com emc2101 fan controller and temperature sensor

steveax · Answer

Looks groovy please report back if you implement

enricko7 · Answer

Thank you It s an RGEEK 150W pico psu from Amazon US based

enricko7 · Answer

I d say the downside is there s not tons of room for fans in my case I m not particularly concerned though because it s well ventilated low power

tonylee · Answer

how much the official case will cost

_dhanos_ · Answer

I don t think there were any announcement about the price yet

tonylee · Answer

I am using this one which is pretty nice but there isn t much room for the backside nvme slot

_dhanos_ · Answer

What do you mean by `but there isn t much room for the backside nvme slot` With the standard standoffs you have plenty of space for the NVMe drives

tonylee · Answer

with heatsink I feel like there is only less than 10mm clearance

_dhanos_ · Answer

Heatsink indeed can be a problem Does this case have a cutout on the motherboard tray or is it a solid sheet of metal

tonylee · Answer

this case is only 65 in height may be not standard

_dhanos_ · Answer

What about the motherboard tray and the question I asked

tonylee · Answer

it just mounts at the bottom basically a box

_dhanos_ · Answer

Then you do not need heatsinks With no air moving down there the heatsinks won t help much since they won t be able to cool down You want to use thermal pads instead and dissipate heat to the case

_dhanos_ · Answer

assuming it s made of metal

tonylee · Answer

good idea

rzero · Answer

M2 SSDs can not be used by CM4 isn t it

KillerWhatHour · Answer

< rzero> That seems to be the case in my build I Would like to be corrected if not Thankfully I have been able to get a raspberry pi to talk to the SATA SSD s today

KillerWhatHour · Answer

I m still battling to get the Jetson TX2 boards to work correctly I got one working then screwed up the local filesystem with my antics so I need to re flash Glad to have two CM4 s up and running

KillerWhatHour · Answer

All the SBC s have arrived 2X CM4 s and 2X Nvida TX2 NX s and I have Ubuntu running on all of them

_dhanos_ · Answer

Nice < weblove 606613946153304117>

ultrahamz · Answer

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ultrahamz · Answer

Anyone tried this

ultrahamz · Answer

Looks like the Turing pi 1 acrylic case

rzero · Answer

Did you follow a particular guide to use the M2 slot with you CM4 everyone seems to says it s not possible

_dhanos_ · Answer

You cannot use M 2 with CM4 on TPi2 They used SATA SSDs

_david_b · Answer

Assuming the case comes like this what kind of power supply would I need Am I correct to assume that it would be the one listed on the homepage currently

_dhanos_ · Answer

Yes You ll need a PicoPSU and a power supply

KillerWhatHour · Answer

No guide was needed though you may need to check if the connector has bitten as the nuts on the heatsink may not allow a full connection with the socket

xAPPO · Answer

Two horizontal cases in 19 rackmount please

bytesalat · Answer

Here you go https www myelectronics nl us 19 inch 2u mini itx case for dual mini itx short d html

inf7 · Answer

I bought this and it is super great to work with If you email them they actually respond with a human My only gripe is shipping to the US costs a bit more but they ship fast

ctr · Answer

While the official case is not there yet any recommendations for cases that have enough room for installing M 2 and a large top fan Did anyone look into e g https en sharkoon com product 1184 16433

walkjivefly · Answer

Scroll back I left a bit of a QB1 review here https discord com channels 754950670175436841 1048217327851802704 1069035888685891674 Months later I m still happy with it and the PSU

klobrush · Answer

Do you have a new status update for us regarding the official case I am waiting to complete my order because of the high shipping costs Thanks

blackphoenixx85 · Answer

Any update on this project I would like to know if you were able to finish it and if everything can run off the PICO PSU Furthermore I would like to get my hands on the Parts list because your little project will solve my NAS storage problem EDIT The reply link might be wrong I m referring to the SATA disk project with the splitter etc Thought Can we have the Turing PI team make a website projects turingpi com where everybody can upload there projects with a Parts list so other people can easily replicate them

_dhanos_ · Answer

I got it to this point https discord com channels 754950670175436841 1030129990211219486 1091312860304511107 if it does not point you to the right place thanks Discord go back and click it again The project is paused but I was able to saturate the 1Gb s network connection with this

myonlinepi.uk · Answer

Is there an update on the official case It s been a while since the last communication Thanks

nsky. · Answer

We are finalizing details We made a significant change by adding internal psu

bytesalat · Answer

I hope the people who bought a picoPSU from the shop aren t grumpy about the design change to have an internal PSU now

nsky. · Answer

Pico psu is an option too

digastic · Answer

Hi are there any plans to release RK1 passive heatsinks with the upcoming ITX case I assume a fan would no longer be needed on heatsink itself and also fins would probably be vertically oriented as shown in the blog post It s just $10 but still

daboone72 · Answer

< nsky > Am so glad you ve done that I don t really want expensive Nvidia or your own Rockchip cards running with a budget pico PSU it s hardly plantinum or gold standard even plugged into a UPS would make me nervous

_dhanos_ · Answer

I would say you need an active heatsink even with the case FAN The fan on the heatsink is meant to quickly dissipate the heat from the module in this exact spot and the case FAN is meant to move this warm air out Passive heatsinks are ok ish for an Original Jetson Nano in 5W mode or the not overclokced CM4 7W but with anything more you need active cooling

_dhanos_ · Answer

What s wrong with PicoPSU This is a pretty common way of powering low power Mini ITX boards not just TPi2 and is more efficient than standard PC ATX PSU at low loads

daboone72 · Answer

< dhanos > I had to send one of mine back it was faulty The quality doesn t inspire any confidence with me at all Before I plug in a 500 Nvidia card I ll be swapping the one I have for a SFX PSU

_dhanos_ · Answer

OK I understand but how sure you are your SFX power supply won t break shortly after you start using it You could also buy a PicoPSu from any other vendor there are multiple vendors making them with their own designs The PicoPSU idea is not bad only because one of yours failed I m just trying to make this clear to others

daboone72 · Answer

< dhanos > Sure nothings perfect but I d expect more quality control the more money I spend and for a gold or platinum I d expect something significant Just a clarification it was the power brick adapter that plugs into the Pico PSU barrel connector that was the problem But they are part of a whole functioning unit so I d still prefer an all in one

daboone72 · Answer

This isn t bad and not a fortune for an 80 Plus Bronzee https www scan co uk products 300w silverstone sfx series st30sf v20 80plus bronze fully wired single rail 25a plus12v 1x92mm quie

_dhanos_ · Answer

I understand it just sometimes happens especially if the package travels around the globe

_dhanos_ · Answer

For everyone thinking of an ATX power supply with this much max power it s going to be super inefficient on the low loads but will work just fine otherwise of course

redsmeg68 · Answer

is this case something we could 3D print

phantom79 · Answer

Wishful thinking Can M 2 screws be bundled with the case

phantom79 · Answer

Also any plans to expose the gpio pins on the back plate of the case

mjptree · Answer

I noticed that when the Turing Pi 2 is powered on it makes an extremely high pitched noise > 16kHz I hope the case isolates that not sure whether it comes from the jetson nanos or the turing pi itself It s easy to ignore for some time but I have it under my desk and hear it whenever I work from home

cbmdk · Answer

Think it s coming from your jetsons or pi s I have one Pi with a high pitch and another one with not so high and 2 quiet ones really annoying

mjptree · Answer

Should try with different combinations then

pk214 · Answer

https tecgear co product core slim sff pc case have anyone try this case before

mjptree · Answer

Just checked the noise is actually coming from the power supply

loremipsumwastaken · Answer

I went with the ITX case from Printables that was linked back in December With a standard Noctua 140mm installed in the lid there is just enough clearance between it and CM4 riser boards All it takes is a couple of zip ties to managing the fan usb and power button wiring

loremipsumwastaken · Answer

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pk214 · Answer

that looks pretty tight

vitoriom · Answer

Just received the motherboard plate for the InWin POC a fold it yourself steel case that should be more robust to repeated openings than the Teenage Engineering Computer 1 The opening behind the motherboard meant to support a GPU provides easy access to the M 2 slots for nodes 1 3 and mostly access to node 4 and kinda access to the SD slot with tweezers or maybe a right angle SD slot extension Just an FYI for folks https cdn discordapp com attachments 1048217327851802704 1139275251658797219 PXL 20230810 185955579 jpg

bhuism · Answer

< nsky > Is there enough for heatsinks on the nvme s I m afraid I can t live without them

01dcod3r · Answer

How much space do you figure you need from mobo to bottom for the nVMEs to breathe

01dcod3r · Answer

with active heat sinks

terarex · Answer

I m using 1 motherboard standoffs here Long enough to provide enough clearance and airflow while still permitting a custom I O shield Because I m using dual sided M 2 SSDs it was necessary to remove all the 2mm M 2 standoffs from the TP2 Otherwise the standoff at the 2260 position was acting as a lever on the back side of the active heatsink putting strain on the edge connector https cdn discordapp com attachments 1048217327851802704 1140110313358888981 PXL 20230813 022316754 jpg

bhuism · Answer

Maybe 15mm and some https www overclockers co uk axagon clr m2fan active fan m 2 ssd external enclosure hd 00d ax html for instance

biobio · Answer

Given the case redesign to use an internal PSU are there any new 3d design thingies for us to look at Also what sizes of internal PSU are going to be supported now

nsky. · Answer

there is

bhuism · Answer

thanks

bhuism · Answer

lets ship that thing this week

_.particles._ · Answer

Do you have more photos

loremipsumwastaken · Answer

I have photos of the case without the board installed I only got it closed up and running as of last night Although I realized that I m going to have to open it back up to re flash all of the SD cards on the CM4 carriers If there s some bit of info in particular you re looking for I can see if I have a shot that works or snap a new one later

_.particles._ · Answer

Curious how it looks with 4 CM4 s running in it the Noctura fan placement mounting if you have any ssd s in there where they sit What additional work did you have to do regarding securing or airflow or ease of access Do you have a pico psu secured in there also I m having on printed currently which is why I ask

loremipsumwastaken · Answer

No SSDs though I have the m 2 slots populated not that the CM4s can do anything with them They re waiting for a RK1 overhaul The case is designed to accommodate a half height PCI card so there is space in there if you wanted to VHB tape an SSD to that side of the case but there are otherwise no native options for mounting a 2 5 drive

loremipsumwastaken · Answer

Or you could drill holes and zip tie a drive if you didn t trust tape not to come loose

loremipsumwastaken · Answer

As for the fan placement there s very little room between the top of CM4s and the Noctua NF A14 ULN I have installed I cable managed using two zip ties to route the front USB headers and power button led wiring I used one zip tie to zip the cabling to one of the lower screw holes on the fan then used the other to take up remaining cable slack

loremipsumwastaken · Answer

If something like the USB header cable gets pinched between the bottom of the fan and the top of the CM4s the lid doesn t close

loremipsumwastaken · Answer

I ll snap a pic of what I did for reference and post it later

loremipsumwastaken · Answer

I am using a pico psu sourced from the TP shop As for visibility I printed the hex pattern lid and there is plenty of visibility to every LED mounted on the board and the CM4s

loremipsumwastaken · Answer

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_.particles._ · Answer

Which 3D model did you use

loremipsumwastaken · Answer

https www printables com model 176107 miniitx pc case v2 with 140mm case fan and low pro

philchristensen · Answer

Any updates on the case I saw the bit about the PSU change which is exciting wondering how much that impacts timeline Not that I m in any rush

_dhanos_ · Answer

We have no updates about the case for now

_.particles._ · Answer

I just had this printed for me but am trying to locate the hardware in 1 full kit to mount it in the case Requires 6 32 threaded inserts for mounting motherboard Requires M3x3x5 threaded inserts and M3x6mm bolts

loremipsumwastaken · Answer

There are amazon links in the original thingiverse post https www thingiverse com thing 4722232

loremipsumwastaken · Answer

I ve worked with heat set inserts before so I already had the custom soldering iron tips needed to install them

_.particles._ · Answer

Thank you the links were not present on the printables link

thegoldbug · Answer

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Hollywood · Answer

After a bit of thought in regards to the mini itx case or any case for that matter I came up with a few ideas First is that the tray for the board be open to access the m 2 s and the sd card for the bmc without removal of the board Second is that it be compatible for a vesa mount In some way Pretty sure that any variation to the layout of the back of the board in the future wouldn t be all that different than the current and previous versions Lastly an area for 4 2 5 ssd drives or laptop hdds but that probably just me

loremipsumwastaken · Answer

In that case no pun intended you might be interested in this https www thingiverse com thing 5978923 design for a module that allows for m 2 access whilst the board is mounted It s a design that goes with the parent project https www thingiverse com thing 4357399 for a modular stackable case

loremipsumwastaken · Answer

If you were considering extra drives through mPCIe accessories it would be a good choice For me I just decided to pre populate all the m2 and sd card slots before installing the board It will be an annoying decision if any of the drives turn out to be bad or the sd card gets cooked in short order

schdrucke · Answer

Thanks < loremipsumwastaken> for the tip Printed using PLA CF Waiting for the inserts to be delivered to switch from the borg cube just not convenient for my shelves https cdn discordapp com attachments 1048217327851802704 1144534127027159070 IMG 7364 jpg https cdn discordapp com attachments 1048217327851802704 1144534127522099201 IMG 7365 jpg https cdn discordapp com attachments 1048217327851802704 1144534127970877460 IMG 7366 jpg https cdn discordapp com attachments 1048217327851802704 1144534129577308170 IMG 7367 jpg

_dhanos_ · Answer

Nice print Is this how this filament prints or did you add a bit of fuzzy skin at least this is how it s called in Cura to make the surface as it is and hide layers

schdrucke · Answer

It s a textured print surface I like that finish

_dhanos_ · Answer

Bottom of the print yes but what about the sides

loremipsumwastaken · Answer

I m guessing it s just lighting and angle

_dhanos_ · Answer

If this is just angle and light then I like both the printer and the filament used to print it Looks great May I know the printer and the slicer used

schdrucke · Answer

This was printed on a Bambulab X1 Carbon using Bambu Studio which uses some of Prusa slicer There is a another branch version called Orca slicer which also supports other printers as well The filament is PLA CF from Bambulab using standard settings 0 2mm layer height with tree support for the power button hole

schdrucke · Answer

I am assembling mine right now but not sure how to connect the power button Do you have a photo or a diagram Front I O https docs turingpi com docs turing pi2 specs and io ports My power button has Power LED+ red and Power LED black plus a 2 lead power switch blue and green wire Red P LED black P LED GND Blue Green https cdn discordapp com attachments 1048217327851802704 1145409196293103769 image0 jpg

schdrucke · Answer

Oh no nothing on the custom skins I knew that with any CF filament the surfaces get very smooth most of the times hiding layer lines

_dhanos_ · Answer

Yeah I was sure you used a nice printer for that Looks super good

_dhanos_ · Answer

Power and GND to blue ad green wire in any way a button does not have polarization

_dhanos_ · Answer

Ok thank you

terarex · Answer

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george.ck · Answer

Is there an update on when the official Mini ITX case will be available

george.ck · Answer

The blog mentioned something like Aug for release https turingpi com tpi case current status

_dhanos_ · Answer

There s no update and any new date for any new information for now

schdrucke · Answer

< terarex> thanks for the photos Now that I got the case open again it looks like yours show a different MB Had the the POWER LED+ connected to P LED and POWER LED connected to respective ground > no light in any state running or not Connected POWER SW to POWER + GND > no function < loremipsumwastaken> how did you connect the switch please firmware 1 1 0 if that is in any way important Edit possible for others with the power switch turned around blue to ground green PWR I can now switch on off had it the other way around before switched the power leds to S LED but still no light https cdn discordapp com attachments 1048217327851802704 1146363524042465371 IMG 7383 png

loremipsumwastaken · Answer

There s a known bug in the 1 1 0 firmware The LEDs don t work on this version

loremipsumwastaken · Answer

My switch is on POWER and GND

terarex · Answer

Yeah front panel LED control was removed from the bmc daemon code in 1 1 0 This was either an oversight or something that fell out of 1 1 0 due to release scheduling To manually turn on the reset LED P LED echo 1 > sys devices platform leds leds fp reset brightness To manually turn on the sys LED S LED echo 1 > sys devices platform leds leds fp sys brightness To turn each LED off echo 0 to the appropriate location This should allow you to confirm correct polarity

thegoldbug · Answer

Thermaltake Tower 100 Black Edition Tempered Glass Type C USB 3 1 Gen 2 Mini Tower Computer is on sale for $80 https www amazon com gp product B08SQF9HGH ref=em 1p 0 lm th=1

felgar_ · Answer

Should I wait for this case to get produce I kind of like it to be honest https turingpi com tpi case current status

george.ck · Answer

I was also waiting for the official case and looks like there is no new information based on this response https discord com channels 754950670175436841 1048217327851802704 1145447317055479938

uppe · Answer

I finally got my order from tomafabrications. The guy who runs it is super friendly and helped me customize the base mITX case to fit my TPi2. I'm pretty stoked with how trippy it looks in the dark, but maybe it's a bit too much for some 😄

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nishant.neeraj · Answer

This looks rad Do you have schema or something to get it build DIY

uppe · Answer

I got some general measurements in a static file but it s not directly usable needs translating to a different format I worked with this manufacturer to get something created for me and they delivered The whole thing was just $90 which was a really good price for something custom made

felgar_ · Answer

Do you have a link to them

felgar_ · Answer

Yeah bummer

uppe · Answer

Sure they are https www tomafabrications com

uppe · Answer

I m not affiliated and I am not incentivized to share their link I m just a happy customer

deimosian · Answer

So that s the old understanding and still used in diagrams by convention but it s not technically true

deimosian · Answer

https www circuitcrush com conventional current vs electron flow

terarex · Answer

Thanks It s what I was taught a long time ago

blackphoenixx85 · Answer

I would like to share some progress on my project earlier in the chat I believed I gave an update So I m working on a nice custom 3D printed case had to go through several iterations to get here Not everything is yet shown here The bottom front panel grey pic 1 will be dual color printed and the Turing PI logo will be embedded into the panel Everything will be printed in black Everything will be secured with machine screws some sunken some with head All the holes will be threaded by using heat inserts the top can be lifted and secured by the top filter tray Panels can be easily taken out when the top is taken off In the bottom there is an X bracket which can be replaced with a mount for hard disks The entire tower sits on 4 legs and the X keeps them in place this will make the tower float in the air because the legs are placed not on the edge it will house 1 x 140mm Noctua ChromeMax it will suck air from the front and blow straight on the board and air exits at the top 2x filter tray against dust for easy removal and replacement of filter TODO Holes in the front panel yellow on pic 1 for the reset and power button once they arrive Hope to start printing soon waiting on the delivery of Prusa MK4 Curious to hear opinions https cdn discordapp com attachments 1048217327851802704 1156152860665454602 TPI 3 png ex=6513eec2 is=65129d42 hm=04803ab0f9a92c2c899eec2514a7326f83432a36682566df53bd5a5796a83a93 https cdn discordapp com attachments 1048217327851802704 1156152860950659163 TPID 4 png ex=6513eec2 is=65129d42 hm=b96023d9ded8862a25a44fc39ed16963741bf08eb0087da59da3e45fb91420ef

blackphoenixx85 · Answer

I will also make a shorter version of the bottom part to lower the tower if you do not place hard disks into it Have not designed the hard disk mounts However I have to also consider that that also means I have to resize to logo I want to print in there

uberdouche · Answer

I used the Teenaged Engeering Computer 1 case worked the treat

phantom79 · Answer

Any updates on the case Or eta for eta

choupz · Answer

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choupz · Answer

Seriously the case looks really cool and tpi seems to make the best work on it I m waiting to buy one

pink6 · Answer

Me too I m currently using a mini itx from CoolMaster though I like the one from Lian Li better I m planning to use the RKs Jetson Orin with the mini itx and order a new TP2 for the Pi4 Jetson Nano cluster

roderickchan · Answer

maybe this can be a good case https zimacube zimaboard com

blackphoenixx85 · Answer

Very cool case but this is an end product I do not see how to get the empty case

philchristensen · Answer

I ve resolved myself to have to mod any case I get but this one is ridiculous

uberdouche · Answer

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steveax · Answer

Nice How much work is it to get to the NVMe slots on the bottom

uberdouche · Answer

the most annoying thing ever lol

uberdouche · Answer

it s not that bad but it s honest not a great case it s a functional artsy fartsy case

philchristensen · Answer

username checks out

philchristensen · Answer

what if you jacked up the motherboard on taller standoffs would it fit

philchristensen · Answer

oh no i guess then it wouldn t line up with the io shield

no_spoons_only_knives · Answer

Was the io plate ever released

walkjivefly · Answer

The TPi2 one Yes https turingpi com product io shield

phantom79 · Answer

Asked in the chat channel but got no response Any update on the official TPI case It was supposed to be ready by Aug Sep

terarex · Answer

There have been no official or unofficial updates on the TPi2 case

maddog1008 · Answer

Just take our money

maddog1008 · Answer

I guess right now I won t be too pushy on a due date Because I m still waiting on my original order to move forward Currently November December timeframe But it would be nice to know how this project is progressing Love the thermal analysis

berkobob · Answer

I installed my TPi in this https www amazon co uk dp B00I9XP5L4 psc=1 ref=ppx yo2ov dt b product details It comes with a 130W power supply The grill vent means you can still see all the pretty lights

_dhanos_ · Answer

The product page says the max supported CPU cooler height is 42mm The height of TPi2 with the modules is 2 or 51mm so I guess it will not fit

phantom79 · Answer

Can someone fromt he TPi team respond with a quick status update on the case Merely curious tho the last update from summer was so promising

philchristensen · Answer

tbh i assume the lack of communication after there was already a major change from PicoPSU to standard PSUs is an indicator that the case project has basically failed

philchristensen · Answer

there s a million alternatives so it s hard to justify making a whole case as much as i would like something super custom I bet the economics of it are awful

bytesalat · Answer

I think it would be wiser not to do a custom case but to rather try to work with a case manufacturer who has an existing case that is either already compatible or only needs few changes to fit your custom needs That saves you a lot of hassle having to acquire knowledge in manufacturing metal cases aswell as dealing with subsequent mistakes and errors during design and manufacturing I backed the Kobol Helios64 NAS kickstarter years ago and afaik making a custom case was one of the reasons their company folded in the end I did receive my backed mainboard + aluminium case but it was badly made and difficult to assemble The backplate was cut wrong and did not properly fit there were sharp edges on the hdd bays that file off material from the plastic caddies and make them hard to insert For the TP2 I bought the 10 Myelectronics Mini ITX case and it s quite good so far Maybe you can print a custom design on the faceplate to make it an official limited run TuringPi case

blackphoenixx85 · Answer

< bytesalat> I do partially agree however there is one significant difference which is a driver for going with a custom case While the TPI is based on the ATX format the contents on the board are far from standard this means that anything designed for a standard setup with optional cooling for a CPU in a certain spot is useless the TPI has a completely different thermal signature I ran into this myself that is why I have designed my own 3D printed case to solve this problem

bytesalat · Answer

Fair point Thermals is the one thing I feel iffy about with the 10 Myelectronics case because it only has an 80mm front fan Unfortunately the picoPSU plug blocks off direct airflow to node 4 and I don t know whether the bottom M 2s get any airflow at all I thought about installing an air funnel but I have no know how for doing that or what not to do as to not make it even worse

blackphoenixx85 · Answer

The only thing what you can do is run a simulation For example with ceetain software when you design for 3D printing you can also run thermal simulations And see if all the areas you want cooled get cooled When it comes to know how overpressure is better then underpressure when it comes to computer cases In basic it means sucking in enough air and make sure your output is a tiny bit smaller based on the air colume exit

blackphoenixx85 · Answer

Regarding the back its something im also struggling with that is why with my case i have placed the board higher it allows me to install a air flow tunnel which bends around the board and get airflow on the nvme I also went with the samsung 980 pro+ heatsink which should also mean that I actually do not need any cooling air flow

blackphoenixx85 · Answer

Search for 3D print in homelab to find my post about my case When its all printed and up and running I will post the files on a 3d print website for copying

_dhanos_ · Answer

A quick status update is sadly that there is no update to share for now Multiple things are going on especially RK1 currently and there is no enough progress on the case to have something to share

_dhanos_ · Answer

It did not fail

phantom79 · Answer

Ithanks < dhanos >

philchristensen · Answer

I just mean in the sense that it would be a mistake to make any decisions assuming it s going to happen in any foreseeable time frame

redsmeg68 · Answer

which exact model I would like to buy one

uppe · Answer

You can email him directly and ask for the same TPi2 design that he made for me he ll surely offer to customize it for your needs too The price was the same as the base MITX120 model

phantom79 · Answer

I might venture designing my own custom case what recommendations do folks have on getting started I ll need s w to make the design and a reasonably priced 3d printing or similar service to make render the models cheap price in case things go wrong

dojo.major · Answer

This is made from acrylic and may be a place to start https youtu be 9Llchw14cDA feature=shared

dojo.major · Answer

I thought he had a tutorial or maybe even was selling plans or something

phantom79 · Answer

Thanks I ll check it out

jbain · Answer

Has anyone tried the k39 steel case https www amazon com SGPC Itx Mini Case Applicable dp B09BJZGKDD ref=psdc 3012292011 t1 B09KM9R7KJ th=1 Looks like it would have good thermals easy access to the nvme slots room for drives A little bigger than I would prefer though

nishant.neeraj · Answer

Please share the mechanical design of the board See the request here https discord com channels 754950670175436841 1167736511635128410

phantom79 · Answer

And just when we thought the pi case was dead slow bake

hakenpax · Answer

Does this case work well

the_1st_bodybagger · Answer

I m currently using a Sharkoon C10 with 4 x 2 5 SSD hotswap dock only using 2 bays and I m going to remove it because the tiny fans are horribly noisy https en sharkoon com product 16426 All sides of the case unscrew including the bottom but Node 4 M2 slot is blocked as is the ssd slot so I will be modifying it slightly

thegoldbug · Answer

I just posted a question on hackaday if this maker would upsize his CM2 case to fit a TuringPi 2 I think this would be an outstanding looking case so long as it has proper cooling https hackaday io project 193444 gallery 6051da643207d20a44f351bf25639880 https cdn discordapp com attachments 1048217327851802704 1171885332774531213 image png ex=655e4e43 is=654bd943 hm=e40c7d43706d9b96b800a5e6809c0642513d68b97eff347ce7b76ff4b4af0b3d

philchristensen · Answer

that is sexy as hell

philchristensen · Answer

I ended up getting this shipping to me soon https ncased com collections m1 products m1evo angled kit black color

roivanov · Answer

my 2cents perfect fit for TPi2 and six disk drives 3 nodes x 2 disk each to host K3s and Longhorn https a co d 4QwrIGs Expected to fit M2 just need to get my first RK1 We are going to get them soon do we

machinchose · Answer

curious about this case too any idea how accessible the underside of the motherboard is for the nvme SSD

machinchose · Answer

Anyone tried the velka 3 https www youtube com watch v=d5 1x9cWbOE

thegoldbug · Answer

I found the source files for the Connection Machine on Adafruit website and I started 3D printing them I ll be placing an order for the electronics today This version isn t big enough for the TuringPi2 so I will need to do some scalingup once I get this design all printed https learn adafruit com little connection machine https cdn learn adafruit com downloads pdf little connection machine pdf

thegoldbug · Answer

Upsizing the Adafruit CM2 STL files to 165 is the largest I can fit on my XC1 build plate and that requires some fiddling but as you can see the TuringPi 2 board fits inside I m not a designer so I don t know how to change the actual design to make mounting points for the board and other items but this is a start for someone who is or you can just jerry rig a mounting solution the photos show the board in a horizontal position but the case needs to be rotated so the MB would actually be vertical I m printing the other half of the case now The mother board did not fit in a 150 upsized case There was some bed adhesion issues which is why you see some warping along the bottom edge

thegoldbug · Answer

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jbain · Answer

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nsky. · Answer

Guys what do you want to see in the internal PSU What is must what is nice to have Like what kind of protections and other features

bhuism · Answer

Power consumption measurement

walkjivefly · Answer

Must have short circuit protection on ALL rails How much internal space did you decide on That s relevant to the max power output but 200 250W and high efficiency would be nice Disclaimer I already have a mini ITX case and ATX PSU and am unlikely to be buying another TPi2 case and PSU any time soon

enricko7 · Answer

Consider making the case HDPlex psu compatible along with atx or sfx No need to reinvent the power supply wheel

nsky. · Answer

Flex ATX max Curious why would you need 200w

bhuism · Answer

How about a case for 2 tpi Is like guitars one is good 2 is better

nsky. · Answer

https www myelectronics nl us 19 inch 2u mini itx case short depth html

bhuism · Answer

I like but unfortunately no 19 rack in the house was thinking a kind of a tower case but thanks for the idea

walkjivefly · Answer

Well that s why I asked how big the TPi2 case is going to be 4 RK1 would be about 80W I want to run a bunch of SSDs or HDDs If funds permitted I could easily run 10 12 if there was space at about 8 10W each which takes the load to around 200W max A bit of headroom in a PSU is never a bad thing The Pico PSUs go to about 150W so the Flex ought to go to a worthwhile bit extra assuming there s space in the case for devices to use the extra power otherwise people might as well stick with the Pico Presumably the Flex sized PSU will have separate voltage rails and S C protection on all of them would be an improvement over a number of ATX supplies mine included which cut costs by only protecting the 12V rails But like I said I already bought a mini ITX case and ATX PSU and unless I win the lottery won t be buying more TPi2 stuff any time soon So I m really just flapping my gums

bonesaw5310 · Answer

Not a lot to add on features other than I too would love for a dual case potentially While I d love to get a rack I don t have space for it So as small as possible is my desire I find many small form factors still try to allow for a GPU and it isn t needed I ended up going with a thermaltake core V1 I put Samsung 980 pros with heatsinks on them and it doesn t fit in My solution was adding stand offs as head space isn t an issue but that nullifies the IO shield I ended up using a plastic IO Mesh shield that can be cut to fit So the board is in and I have ample room for the PSU But I wish it were smaller still

bonesaw5310 · Answer

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